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I think I won this round..... 😁😁Thank you for the suggestions for the name of Mary's son. Mary was original when naming him and she chose Edmund, after her paternal great-grandfather, Edmund Tudor, the father of Henry VII.
I'm keeping at as Charles because otherwise subsequent posts won't make sense.I think I won this round..... 😁😁
You should probably change the name in the first thread.... its still charles there
Did Don Carlos become Don Felipe then?I'm keeping at as Charles because otherwise subsequent posts won't make sense.
Ok so after the first post he becomes Edmund?I'm keeping at as Charles because otherwise subsequent posts won't make sense.
That's right.Ok so after the first post he becomes Edmund?
If the child was born on May 2nd, he could be name Athanasius for the Saint whose feast falls on that day. If the birth is delayed by a day, May 3rd is the Feast of St. Philip and James the Apostles, so the chances of the boy being names Philip go up exponentially.I can't really imagine firstborn son of rulling monarch beign named Philip, after all, english kings had a long history of fighting with french kings with that name.
Of course, Charles means exactly the same problem (OTL, England having kings with that name was pretty much a coincidence).
Perhaps John would have been acceptable? It's a very popular name, used in both England and Spain, and "royal" enough.
You mean the Habsburg dynasty is secured? The Tutors are dead, long live the Big Chins!Mary I's religious policy was the same as in OTL. She revived the heresy laws which resulted in about three hundred Protestants being burnt at the stake, most notably Thomas Cranmer, John Hooper, Hugh Latimer and Nicholas Ridley.
She gave birth to a baby girl on 21 December 1557. She and Philip II named their daughter Catherine, after her mother.
Mary allied England allied with Spain in Philip's war against France, and Calais was lost to the French. She died on 17 November 1558 (as in OTL). Her son, Prince Edmund, now became King of England and Ireland as Edmund I. He was three and a half years old.
She has a mixed reputation. She is remembered as Bloody Mary, for her unpopular marriage to Philip II and for the loss of Calais to France. But also for her strong love for her two children. With the accession of Edmund, the Tudor dynasty was secure for many years to come.
I don't know if the children of Mary I and Philip II were Tudors or Hapsburgs.You mean the Habsburg dynasty is secured? The Tutors are dead, long live the Big Chins!
They are 100% Habsburgs.I don't know if the children of Mary I and Philip II were Tudors or Hapsburgs.
Some of Mary's Privy Councillors had also served under Henry VIII and/or Edward VI. John Baker; Henry Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel; Lord Willi am Paget, William Paulet, Marquess of Winchester, all served under Henry and Edward, and Sir Henry Bedingfield under Edward. They all changed their religious allegiance from Catholic to Protestant and back to Catholic. Baker was a 'brutal persecutor of Protestants.' (1) He died on 23 December 1558. His office as Chancellor of the Exchequer was taken by Sir Edward Waldegrave, promoted from Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.
Cardinal Richard Pole, Archbishop of Canterbury, died on 17th November 1558, a few hours after Queen Mary. He was succeeded by Nicholas Heath, Archbishop of York. No Protestants had been burnt at the stake in his diocese.
Edmund I's Privy Council was moderate as regards religion. The heresy laws were not enforced and no Protestants were executed for their faith. They were allowed to worship, though not in churches, where only Catholic worship was permitted.
The Marquess of Winchester, the Lord High Treasurer, was the de facto head of the Regency Council and the Privy Council. (2) He was in effect the King's Chief Minister.
(1) See his entry in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(died_1558).
(2) Here is his entry in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Paulet,_1st_Marquess_of_Winchester.
And it advertises his Englishness and legitimacy, whereas naming him Phillip emphasizes that his dad is a foreignerPersonally I think Mary would name her son Henry as while she may've had a complicated relationship with her dad she was still extremely proud of being his daughter and liked to emphasize her descent from him - I usually think she and philip would've named a son henry philip
Is Phillip completely cut out of the decision making here? Because he's much more likely to want to tie his children back into the Hapsburg web of alliances, especially as opposed to marrying French.The Privy Council discussed the choice of a suitable royal wife for King Edmund, and a suitable royal husband for Princess Catherine. They both had to be Catholics.
For Edmund, it was Margaret of Valois (born 14 May 1553), daughter of Henry II of France and Catherine de Medici. (1) Edmund and Margaret were betrothed in March 1560.
Catherine was betrothed to Sebastian, King of Portugal (born 20 January 1554) in September 1560. (2)
(1) For Margaret see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_Valois.
(2) For Sebastian see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian,_King_of_Portugal.