Allied Japan

May 1940
Prime Minister Mitsumasa Yonai leaned back in his chair, rubbing his eyes wearily. He was desperately trying to prevent Japan from allying with Germany and Italy, but each day was harder, as the Axis won victory after crushing victory. And we are already on a war footing due to that "6 month" war in China! Foreign currency reserves were dwindling, meaning that soon Japan could not buy scrap metal, oil, and other imports... He looked at the newspaper again. The mighty IJN had little to do now, as fighting in China moved farther from the coast. He wondered if it was possible... Ending the war in China, raising currency, allied with Britain against the USSR and perhaps the US. He straitened his back. It would be a gamble. But all great things were. He began drafting his message to the Japanese ambassador to Britain, Mamoru Shigematsu...


His Majesty's ambassador to the Empire of Japan Robert Cragie was feeling nonplussed. Although he agreed with accommodating the Japanese to buy time, this was nearly madness. Besides bypassing all the normal diplomatic channels, the proposal was audacious. As if everyone in the Foreign Office thinks it Nineteen bloody oh two! he thought. He pushed these thoughts aside as he began speaking," Emperor of Japan, thank you for your graciousness in allowing a servant of King George VI to address you. We are grateful to find you in health. However, outside our borders, a great evil arises that threatens both of our nations. We humbly ask of you, your Highness, to join us in this fight, to stand once more as brothers." Finished, Craigie held his breath.
 
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2nd Anglo-Japanese Treaty

Japan at War: 1936-1976
"The most curious part of the birth of 2nd Anglo- Japanese Alliance was that neither country wanted the treaty; neither parliament was notified of it, and it was offered monarch to monarch, an anachronism in the 20th century."

Churchill, oddly enough, was the one holding out. "We cannot simply ignore Nanking, Mukden, or Shanghai. And the secret provisions are inexcusable. A free hand in China? For what, a few destroyers like in the Great War? We have a moral responsibility to say no" he finished.
Eden toyed with his papers, and then replied. "Every point you make is correct. And yet we have lost 2 carriers already, the bulk of our heavy weaponry, and France. The Japanese offer is rather generous: up to half of their carriers, a third of battleships, cruisers, and destroyers. 3 Kongo's, Hiei as well if we request her being rearmed. Plus having Japan as an ally, as opposed to a potential threat. And they get paid in sterling, easing our dependence on the US whilst earning the money back in exports. Weighed against this, ending supplies to the Chinese, using our diplomats to pressure China to end the war, and also keep the US at bay. A mutual defense pact against the USSR, which is allied with Nazi Germany. And the peace terms for China merely reflect the situation on the ground... Japanese gets her puppets, China gets time to strengthen."
Churchill replied wearily "I know all that, and the Navy wants those warships to strengthen the Home Fleet and Force H. But we retain overall control, allowing for Japanese officers commanding themselves. We must watch them carefully" he ended.

The House of Commons was in an uproar, albeit quietly. That juxtaposition summed up the feelings nicely. The fear of an invasion versus the Rape of Nanking... There was a good reason Churchill did not want the vote on it, despite the Japanese Prime Minister pleading that he do so. And the fact that the King requested it added a twist. The only compromise was a motion to support the King and government in their overtures to Japan.
 
Blood for oil...

Japan at War: 1936-1976
"If the arguments in Britain were bitter, they lacked the hatred found in Japan. The ultra-nationalists decried siding with a power in decline, which still maintained colonies in Japan's rightful sphere."

"However, Yonai proved adept at maneuvering against the various factions. Since the Emperor had entertained the proposal, no one could criticize it directly. There were still memories of Britain and the alliance of 1902, the perception that perhaps Britain was a friend of Japan's. The Army, for their part, also grudgingly admitted it would help end the war in China. Thus, their threats to bring down the government proved empty. Yonai's ploy to have the British offer via Shigemitsu was brilliant, as well as having the burden (American outrage) of militarizing Hiei (actually already done by now in secret)."

"The terms of the Treaty stipulated that if the USSR attacked Japan, the UK would declare war as well. If war broke out between Japan and the US, Britain would be free of all obligations. This part was to be secret, but the British could "leak" it to the Americans. Japan would keep a minimum of 30% of her fleet at Britain's disposal; tonnage determined by war needs. Japanese ships were commanded by her officers up to flag level, but Britain was in overall command of the joint fleets [Britain did not trust Japan to operate her own fleets, and strove to keep any mixed fleet 60% British]. Another secret provision was that Britain would end all aid to China, and pressure Chiang Kai-Shek into accepting peace terms; the Japanese were desperate enough to not force reparations and were even willing to pull back some, remaining on Hainan and still getting her puppets Wang Jingwei and Manchukuo, and a 3 year withdrawal from the coastal regions (goal of 2; this would allow the Japanese to proclaim they were leaving early on their own)."

"What is significant is what was not included. No technology transfer (the British did provide higher octane fuel to ensure higher performance); Japan struggled to develop her own radar, for example. The Japanese merchant marine were almost completely devoted to British needs; on the return trip laden with rubber, metals, and oil (all bought at war inflated prices). Japan financed these purchases with a mix of loans and payments (from the use of the fleets and merchant ships). This was not a friendship; it was a marriage of convenience."

"The benefits to Britain were significant. The heavy losses of merchant ships in the summer of 1940 were partially offset by the Japanese, allowing for much of Britain's naval building program to continue. Paying the Japanese in pounds (and charging war prices!) allowed her currency reserves, particularly dollars, to stabilize. Britain still bought weapons from the US, as Japan was felt to produce inferior products [although modifying to British standards would have costly]. Manchurian iron ore was even shipped, lessening British needs on America."

Late at night, May 1940

Yonai had ensured Japan would not join the Axis, and already merchant ships were moving supplies to the British Empire. But now it was time to send the Fleet, while leaving enough strength against any possible surprise American attack. He looked at the list, musing. Yamamoto: widely respected, talented, and pro [Naval] Treaty... unfortunately, too valuable to send away yet. Reasonable men were hard to find in government, and Yonai had none to spare. Nagumo was decent, not exceptional, but would not lose the fleet recklessly, and had the necessary rank. Who else... Yamaguchi was a hot head, but Ozawa showed much promise. The British wanted 2 fleets, one in Scapa Flow, the other at Gibraltar. Nagato, Mutsu, Kaga, Akagi, all four of the Mogami class (at British request, since 8-inch cruisers were valuable), plus destroyers. Nagumo in charge, Yamaguchi as well. Ozawa would get Hiryu, Kongo, Haruna, probably no cruisers or destroyers. He was already weakening the Home Islands defense. Ryujo and Soryu could shuttle aircraft as needed. They were rapidly mobilizing; he hoped to get them in place by the end of June. His work done, he quietly got ready for home.
 
I have always wanted to see Zeros over Crete

So I have started this TL. Any critiques or suggestions are welcome; I plan on dumping out the TL, then coming back in a few months, taking the suggestions, and refining it. Unless someone else wants to. Then I can read without the work :D

Also, I have no expertise in this area, and Wikipedia is my source, so better knowledge is acknowledged and appreciated.
 
I think this is a bit unrealistic. Japan has no reason to give Britain any part of her fleet, in a fight that doesn't concern her, across the world. By 1940 the British Empire was looking for friends against Germany, not trying to lock up alliances against the Soviet Union.

And there is no way the British would take Japanese aid over American.
 
July 1940
Admiral Somerville watched uneasily at the Japanese ships at anchor. London had forbid the Japanese from participating on the attack on Mers El Kebir. As if anyone would want to join such a massacre. His job was to get them up to British standards, and then fight...

July 20th, 1940
Yesterday, the US Congress passed the 2 Ocean Bill. Today, Yonai felt the full wrath of it, from the accusation that his alliance with Britain had failed (it was merely a few months old!) to ordering a preventative attack, NOW, before the Americans overwhelmed Japan. The compromise was to match 60-70% of US tonnage, in all classes.
 
true

But several high ranking Japanese officials wanted peace with Britain and America, and in this one they get it. The UK is not choosing either/or; they get American arms and Japanese carriers.
 
This isn't likely and borderline ASB. Britian wasn't looking for an ally against the Soviets, but the Nazis.

The IJN would never let there ships leave the Pacific.

The only way this makes since is if, Hitler and Stalin could get over the mistrust each other had of the other man and agree to crush the allies, The Soviets double down in Finland, and open up a second front againist Iran, A-stan, and Turkey. Then it might work, but even this is ASB.
 
If Yonai tried this he is dead, the militarists would kill him for this, if not the high level ones then some junior officer
 
But several high ranking Japanese officials wanted peace with Britain and America, and in this one they get it. The UK is not choosing either/or; they get American arms and Japanese carriers.

The only way to avoid war with America is if Japan never goes around conquering parts of Asia for resources for its war in China. And I'm pretty sure the officials who wanted withdrawal from China were a tiny minority. Now, I'm sure it is possible, but you can't just handwave away the war with China.
 
Perhaps, but it is this side of ASB

I thought the West was willing to ignore Japan if they left the Axis. ITTL Japan will not need to invade, as they are basically whoring the IJN for British pounds and loans. The alliance against the USSR is to deter the USSR, not spark a war. The main goal is focusing on the Nazis, with the IJN as a supplement. The war in China is still ongoing; so far the Japanese have chosen Britain over Germany.
 
Indochina

July-Oct 1940
The Japanese fleet spent the time working up and acclimating. Mainly convoy work and hunting for raiders.

Sep 1940
Citing Vichy support of Nazi Germany and China (China was also supported by the USSR), Japan invaded north Indochina. Using bases on Hainan and carriers, the Japanese moved swiftly, capturing all of it in a little under a month. Another lifeline to Chiang had been cut.
 
Outrage at Japan

Japan at War: 1936-1976
"The invasion of northern Indochina caught the British, and perhaps Prime Minister Yonai, by surprise. The Japanese Army had its own merchant ships, allowing it to conduct operations rather independently of the Navy or even of Edo. PM Yonai claimed ignorance, which "jibes" since he had just signed the treaty, as well as his advice to the British."

"He advised them to invade south Indochina, arguing that if they [the British] did not the IJA would. So the British did, with elements of Indian Army, British regulars, and Australian making up the invasion (Australian PM Menzies allowed the Militia to help, leading to his defeat later). After the Japanese aggression in the north, the British were welcomed not quite as liberators, but with resignation."

"While the British treated the local leaders as if the French would return, the Japanese moved to either puppetize any local government or outright colonize. The fact the Japanese seemed to have no intention of leaving, coupled with continued aggression against China, led the US to put quotas on the amount of scrap metal, aviation fuel, and other exports against Japan."

"Again there were quiet talks regarding the efficacy of the IJN. The carriers would be nice, but the Nagato's were little more than the Rodney class, while the Kongo's were World War 1 battlecruisers. Their cruisers were well regarded, but the destroyers were wholly inadequate for ASW [although decent as fleet support, allowed more British destroyers to ASW patrols], and all classes were deficient in AA. The sad fact was that it was Japan fighting [and dying] or no one; America would sell arms, but not a step more, while the USSR was supplying food and material to Nazi Germany."
 
Operation Judgment

Late Oct 1940
British carriers Ark Royal and Illustrious are redeployed to Alexandria, pending goodwill trip to Japan/ hunting for raiders in the Indian Ocean. Japan arranges special housing and several British merchant ships are already sailing with equipment.

Nov 11 1940
Operation Judgment strikes against the Italian Fleet at Taranto. 46 Swordfish take part in the attack, which results in Conte di Cavour, Andrea Doria, and Littorio sunk, Gorizia heavily damaged, several destroyers damaged or destroyed.
 
Interesting TL, please continue it.

I think you should play up the end of the war in China. Many, many Japanese leaders, even military leaders, knew that the war was a disaster for Japan. They were looking for a way to end it. The problem was, it they ended by leaving all China, the war would be seen to have been an expensive failure. It was not just fear of assassination, though that was important, but also the public reaction. Remember, there was rioting after the end of the Russo-Japanese War, and that was a victory. This deal allows Japan to say they have achieved their war aims--they have created a Chinese government that will protect Japanese interests in the region. (Of course their real aims were more expansive, but that's not what matters here.) I think many in Japan would be willing to pay quite a high price to end the burden of the war. Would they pay this high of a price? Probably not, but who knows?

It's not a likely scenario, but it's not completely impossible either.

Oh, and you misspelled Shigematsu in the first post
 
Operation White

Nov 17 1940
Battle of Sardinia
The battlecruisers Haruna, Kongo, and Renown, carriers Hiryu and Ark Royal (escort), Furious and Argus (ferrying), cruisers Despatch and Sheffield, and 7 destroyers, attempt Operation White, ferrying Hurricanes to Malta.

Despite the defeat at Taranto, the Italian fleet sorties, with the new battleship Vittorio Veneto, Giulio Cesare, escorted by 2 heavy cruisers and 16 destroyers, intending to disrupt or destroy the convoy. Admiral Somerville wavered, debating launching the aircraft at their extreme range, but the Japanese were chomping at the bit (and slightly miffed that so far they had done nothing), and send a message to Somerville "England expects every man to do his duty." Soon after, Somerville ordered an airstrike, possibly followed up with surface action. At the same time, he ordered the planes ready for ferrying.
 
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I am very bad at estimating distances, when fleets would arrive to fight, etc, so yeah I expect people to correct me on that... Good thing I don't fly planes.
 
The Battle of Sardinia

6:15am
The Ark Royal quickly launched 20 Swordfish and 12 Skuas (armed with bombs, the Japanese will provide fighter cover), as the Hiryu launched 10 Claudes, 14 Vals, and 14 Kates. Due to the different cruising speeds, the Japanese arrive first.

The Vals' bomb (250 kg) is too light to seriously damage Vittorio (12 dropped, 3 hits), but wreak havoc on the Cesare (6 dropped, 2 hits), starting fires. A trio of Vals attack a cruiser, bracketing it with 2 near misses and a single hit that starts a minor fire amidships. The Kates also bore in, dropping their torpedoes at point blank range. All focus on the battleships, 14 for Vittorio, 7 for Cesare. 6 hit the Cesare, causing an instant list; within 15 minutes she will go down.

The Vittorio, on the other hand, was fast and maneuverable, proving a challenge. Only 2 hit, near the bow, starboard side, causing an instant list. As the Japanese were leaving, the British arrived. The Skuas split in 2 groups, attacking the 2 destroyers stopped picking up survivors. Both are hit twice, the near misses killing many in the water. The Swordfish broke into groups of two's and three's, looking to a Japanese observer "like a couple of hens scrabbling for food."

The Vittorio quickly sped up, widening the bow hole in the process. The Swordfish scored 3 hits, all spread out, causing minor flooding throughout the ship. The rest of the torpedoes miss. Total casualties were 1 Val, 2 Kates, and 2 Swordfish.
As the planes had been leaving to attack, Rear Admiral Ozawa ordered his 2 battlecruisers to 25 knots, with Renown following. Quickly plotting the distances, everyone knew that within a few hours, the big guns would fire.
 
Battle of Sardinia part 2

Nov 17 1940
8:37 am

Admiral Campioni was worried. Vittorio Veneto was heavily damaged, as well as 2 destroyers. Minor damage to a cruiser. Large battle fleet, possibly with battleships approaching. He knew what had to be done. Speaking quickly, he ordered the fleet to make best speed to Naples, leaving the 2 destroyers at the mercy of the British.

Admiral Ozawa read the report quietly. He doubted the captains of the Haruna or Kongo were as composed. He admired the Italian admiral for making the correct, but tough decision. Better to lose a few destroyers than your fleet. He also knew it was futile. The fleet had readied the first strike as early as 4am, in order to be ready at dawn. The British signaled they would launch flights as ready to slow the Vittorio. He considered doing the same, then sighed. Better to launch one big hammer than pinpricks. An officer reported that the aircraft should be ready in half an hour for launch. Admiral Ozawa waited.

The 9 Swordfish finally caught up to the Vittorio, scoring one hit which seemed to have no effect, for one of their own. As they were withdrawing, the 2nd wave of Japanese planes arrived. The 14 Kates had been ordered to only attack Vittorio, while the Vals were split into 4 flights: 4 each per cruiser, 3 per destroyer. The Kates executed an anvil-and-hammer attack, scoring 10 hits; 6 fairly close on the port side, 4 on the starboard. The last starboard hit started flooding in the adjacent engine room, slowing the great ship.

The Vals were no less effective, scoring 3 out of 4 on one, 4 out of 4 on the other. A destroyer took 2 hits and a miss, or 3 hits; accounts differed as the ship simply exploded. The second destroyer was hit only once, but that hit broke its back. Another wave of Skuas and Swordfish took 3 more destroyers in the chaos. The rest of the fleet scattered, hoping that there would not be another strike that day, as the Vittorio quietly sank bow first into the sea.
 
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