Best PODs for a Castile screw?

[Taunay]

Starting in the 11th century, what are the best PODs that can result in Castile being less powerful and influential?

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Henry IV lives longer

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

Henry IV lives longer

Not really, that actually might be wank in disguise if Henry manages to centralize power as he wanted to and union with Portugal lasts, colonization of America will speedrun (also India and Africa will be more Iberian than OTL) and Castille will not be dragged in Habsburg wars.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

That is big if and we do not know if Castile will be uninvolved with Habsburg war as his daughter or descendant would likely wed a Habsburg due to their powerful status

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

That is big if and we do not know if Castile will be uninvolved with Habsburg war as his daughter or descendant would likely wed a Habsburg due to their powerful status

Idk if they would, immediate descendants of Henry would be rather pro-French as French supported Juana and they do not have any grievances against the French and Aragon is their mutual enemy, so I'd bet on Castilian-Portuguese union remaining pro French.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Idk if they would, immediate descendants of Henry would be rather pro-French as French supported Juana and they do not have any grievances against the French and Aragon is their mutual enemy, so I'd bet on Castilian-Portuguese union remaining pro French.

That is true
Perhaps Pampelune is suppressed more strongly

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

That is true
Perhaps Pampelune is suppressed more strongly

Well, the kingdom of Navarre has more chances not to get invaded by Ferdinand here.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Well, the kingdom of Navarre has more chances not to get invaded by Ferdinand here.

That is true
If OP wants an Aragon screw to be thrown into it as well, just have a free Joanna hand power over to Philip

 

[Curtain Jerker]

Maybe not having Spain be in a personal union with Austria/HRE?

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

That is true
If OP wants an Aragon screw to be thrown into it as well, just have a free Joanna hand power over to Philip

Why power being handed over to Philip would be a screw?

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Why power being handed over to Philip would be a screw?

There was a reason Ferdinand greatly feared handing over power to him...

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

There was a reason Ferdinand greatly feared handing over power to him...

Because he didn't like him, and Aragon being surrounded by France and Castile-Portugal would need an ally to survive.

 

[Taunay]

That is true
If OP wants an Aragon screw to be thrown into it as well, just have a free Joanna hand power over to Philip

I don't mind an Aragon screw, it's also complementing the Castile screw so it's good

 

[Taunay]

I wonder, would a Castilian War of Succession with the victory of Joanna la Beltraneja be a Castile screw, since it would prevent Castile and Aragon from uniting?

 

[Wendell]

Perhaps a different resolution to the Aragonese succession and/or Henry III of Castile is defeated?

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

I wonder, would a Castilian War of Succession with the victory of Joanna la Beltraneja be a Castile screw, since it would prevent Castile and Aragon from uniting?

I would say it won't be Castile-screw. Actually, as I said before, most likely it'd be wank in disguise. Actual Castile screw would be it staying under Sancho III of Navarre's heirs control.

 

[Taunay]

I would say it won't be Castile-screw. Actually, as I said before, most likely it'd be wank in disguise. Actual Castile screw would be it staying under Sancho III of Navarre's heirs control.

True, thanks for that

 

[Mister Mister]

Or maybe, a draw in a Civil War, where Castille get's divided between Juana/Portugal and Isabella/Aragon?

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

True, thanks for that

Yeah, hard to screw Castile more than into non existence.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Or maybe, a draw in a Civil War, where Castille get's divided between Juana/Portugal and Isabella/Aragon?

Well then there is no Castile to screw...