What I've thought out is having a weak France (so France wouldn't interfere) and the HRE still is an entity. Basically to prevent war and to have a colony the hre has the Netherlands to control Angola and the area around Cape town. A series of competent, dynamic and ambitious emperors then send surplus people (ittl protestents in more Catholic areas) to these colonies. These people learn how to live in Africa and create the basis in which massive expansion occurs in the 19th century.
I think the best way to weaken France is for England to not fight France. Just have the Scandinavians/natives rule England and call it a day.
What do you people think of this scenario? I'd think some people will think the settling of Southern Africa with Europeans is implausible but history is often quite insane. I'd think no one before 1500 would have thought that Spain would acquire it's American colonies. The problem with colonising Africa is often the natives offered much more resistance than the natives, the land was not good and the diseases were often brutal to Europeans. I'd think the colonists at first would face native raids and would have toughened themselves during the process. I also think having Angola/South Africa being a penal colony as much as a place for refilling would make sense and weight necessitate the people farming there. I think the diseases will not be solved, but I think an influx of people during the 19th century and advancing technology in treating diseases will cause rapid expansion and displacement of native African people groups.
Ittl South Africa would at least be quite racist and would put native Africans in concentration camps and such during the late 19th century.
I think the best way to weaken France is for England to not fight France. Just have the Scandinavians/natives rule England and call it a day.
What do you people think of this scenario? I'd think some people will think the settling of Southern Africa with Europeans is implausible but history is often quite insane. I'd think no one before 1500 would have thought that Spain would acquire it's American colonies. The problem with colonising Africa is often the natives offered much more resistance than the natives, the land was not good and the diseases were often brutal to Europeans. I'd think the colonists at first would face native raids and would have toughened themselves during the process. I also think having Angola/South Africa being a penal colony as much as a place for refilling would make sense and weight necessitate the people farming there. I think the diseases will not be solved, but I think an influx of people during the 19th century and advancing technology in treating diseases will cause rapid expansion and displacement of native African people groups.
Ittl South Africa would at least be quite racist and would put native Africans in concentration camps and such during the late 19th century.
