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Icarus: A Climate TL
- Thread starter ItsMyKetchup
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Here's a rundown on American political parties:
Democrats - Losing the left flank to the Greens and the working class to the increasingly isolationist Republicans, the Democrats are the party of the comfortable center, those that are generally liberal, prefer internationalism in theory, and live in states least affected by climate change. They remain the largest party in the United States for now.
Republicans - Neoconservatives that have seen the writing on the wall and have decided to move towards isolationist rhetoric.
Greens - Most people agree with the general ideas and theories of the Green platform, but their actual policy proposals are unpopular. Nevertheless, as climate change wreaks havoc on America, they gain more and more votes each election, even when turnout drops. They are most popular in some urban areas, New England, Washington state, and what's left of urban and suburban regions in the South.
Homeland - Originally formed as merger between a quasi-Tea Party movement and the Constitution Party. Xenophobic and anti-refugee, the party is now split into two camps: those that support the Internal Control amendment and those that don't. A pretty minor party that sometimes wins elections in the Great Plains and the Rockies.
There's also a Climate Interests Caucus in Congress comprised mostly of conservatives from southern states that vote with the Greens on climate change bills.
There are more hurricanes ITTL, and more of them are Category 5. The most dangerous effect of climate change is that the area affected by hurricanes (and other cyclones) is moving poleward, meaning more of the US East Coast will be impacted by large hurricanes. Funnily enough, hurricanes also damage the ozone layer ever so slightly.
International air travel is down, mostly due to economic decline and weather constraints. Air travel continue to exist, partly subsidized by the government. Airplanes rarely cross through equatorial regions due to political instability in the area and many passengers harboring a mostly unfounded fear of UV exposure.
I find it strange how no one has pointed out that Hawaii(?) has a larger landmass for some reason. Does it have to do with the Reclamation thing mentioned previously in the US media Supreme Court case.
What is the symbolism of the Russian flag like as I noticed it doesn't fly the White-Blue-Red tricolor and what does it mean for TTL's Russia?
SuperZtar64
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Hawaii doesn't have a larger landmass: in fact, it's a lot smaller. What you're seeing there on the map is the island of Oahu, because that's what the state has been reduced to. You can learn more about what has become of Hawaii in one of the maps at the beginning.
SuperZtar64
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The Communists took power in Russia in 1998 and have turned it into Soviet Union 2.0, more or less
OHHHH, jeez guess I can't realize what the individual islands look like, I thought for a second maybe I was smart lol
2000 United States presidential election
CNN RSS News Feed — November 6, 2000
- 2000 CAMPAIGN: Latest polls show dead heat in election
- Bush and Gore make closing arguments at last campaign stops
- MARKET: Tech stocks continue to plunge in dot-com crash
- Trillions wiped in value in NASDAQ bloodbath
- See both candidates' views on taxes, abortion, and more
- Amazon.com, Yahoo among those filing for bankruptcy
- Despite recession fears, holiday shopping off to strong start
- EU urges prospective members to speed up reforms
- Dow drops over 100 points as blue chip stocks take a hit
- Analysts: Don’t ‘catch the falling knife’
- Stem cell research continues to prove controversial
- FBI: Yemen ‘uncooperative’ on USS Cole investigation
- NASA to map potentially threatening asteroids
- Sun Microsystems to sell off California campus
- China to tighten its own cyberspace
- Floods continue to pound UK
- Early indicators of lower voter turnout present
- Hostage crisis in Ecuador resolved peacefully
- NASA: Ozone hole reaches record levels
- Oligarch flees Russia as arrest warrant issued
- White House: Clinton to meet with Barak soon
- Caveat emptor: Internet fraud claims victims
- Solar power has a bright future
- Infighting in UK's Labour over Euro adoption plan
- Concern brews over solar storms
- Iraq defiant against US sanctions and UN condemnation
Here's a pretty small update. I don't know if current politics are allowed in this forum or if this even counts as current politics, but I'll try to do a wikibox for every presidential election up to 2020. Once the elections start to diverge more from OTL, there will probably be a lengthier writeup to go along with the wikibox.
2000 but Dubya wins both the electoral and popular vote? Now this really is a dystopia.
I would have assumed so as well, but I guess climate denialism could have reached today levels by 2000 ITTL. Maybe the Republicans looked more like they do today twenty years ago in Icarus.
eh, Gore started doing the environmentalism routine post-2001 otl.
maybe he wins in 2004 or 2008 in ttl using that as a gimmick to get reelected.
Given how it's implied that the climate situation started to become worse than OTL under Clinton, it could be that the voters are simply expressing their displeasure with the Democrats in general than with Gore.
What's the climate situation in ttl's 2000 compared to OTL? As in how far ahead are we talking here?
SuperZtar64
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Ketchup said in the past that there are no real notable butterflies until the mid-1990s, which is when the ozone hole starts getting really big. So far it's probably only slightly worse and hasn't reached crisis level yet.
Really excited, I think the RSS feed adds a whole new level of realism and such a useful insight into the world
