Terror in Littleton: How a tragedy shaped a nation

kholieken

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Yeah, lets not get overblown reactions. There are 70+ million children in usa. Remember that these kind of school exists on OTL. ATL they affected more children but likely not enough to change national mood. If anything, Eric and Dylan "success" would be more inspiring to many, rather than suffering of "losers". There are hundreds of thousands children in fostering, lacking food, runaways, or homeless. They never become news.
 
So how long do you think we will see vicious attacks by done to these counselor's of these tough love centers? Also, what's stops the kid from running away first or disowning their parents first.
 
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And wouldn't foreign country's try to use this catastrophe to their own advantage and use it to destabilize the country further? The most dangerous thing a country can have is a bunch of angry, disenfranchises youths.
 
And wouldn't foreign country's try to use this catastrophe to their own advantage and use it to destabilize the country further? The most dangerous thing a country can have is a bunch of angry, disenfranchises youths.
And assuming technology advances at the same rate it did IOTL, such efforts are likely to coincide with the rise of major social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube in the late 2000s and early 2010s, likely amplifying many of the problems with political/social radicalization, fake news/misinformation, conspiracy theories and more we have already seen with these platforms IOTL.
 
And assuming technology advances at the same rate it did IOTL, such efforts are likely to coincide with the rise of major social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube in the late 2000s and early 2010s, likely amplifying many of the problems with political/social radicalization, fake news/misinformation, conspiracy theories and more we have already seen with these platforms IOTL.
Given what's happening in this timeline, the rise of such social media platforms might not even occur, at least not to the extent that it did in real life. Youths in this timeline are likely to be abandoning social media in droves.
 
Yeah, lets not get overblown reactions. There are 70+ million children in usa. Remember that these kind of school exists on OTL. ATL they affected more children but likely not enough to change national mood. If anything, Eric and Dylan "success" would be more inspiring to many, rather than suffering of "losers". There are hundreds of thousands children in fostering, lacking food, runaways, or homeless. They never become news.

It's more probable that the 'thruth' will be on th middle; while not a mass death/dystopia scenario somewhat the national mood will change because, and it's very painfull to say, unlike the hundreds of thousands of children in fostering, runaways, homeless the one affected in this situation are also the 'good' kid of the middle class and that is newsworthy.
We can also see a stronger generational divide ITTL between the 'Boomers' and the rest, after all the adult answer to the massacre was instead of deal with the cause or the easily availability of gun and explosive material (propane) because of economics or (as many younger will see that) because it inconvinience them, they transformed the schools in prisons and declared them the enemy.

Regarding the social media, do you really think that someone like Zuckemberg can come out of this system unscathed?
 
How long before self-proclaimed "Resistance" and "Freedom Fighter" movements attack these behavior modification places or the residences of the people part of the war on youth (judges, prosecutors, school boards, mayors, legislators, county executives, etc)?

There's got to be at least a few out there who must prefer direct action to picketing, protesting and so on.

Picture these freedom fighters wearing Guy Fawkes masks (ala "V for Vendetta") targeting the house of the local school principal, covering it with graffiti, smashing windows, totalling any car, dumping stink bombs down the chimney and so on.
 

kholieken

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So how long do you think we will see vicious attacks by done to these counselor's of these tough love centers? Also, what's stops the kid from running away first or disowning their parents first.

How long before self-proclaimed "Resistance" and "Freedom Fighter" movements attack these behavior modification places or the residences of the people part of the war on youth (judges, prosecutors, school boards, mayors, legislators, county executives, etc)?

There's got to be at least a few out there who must prefer direct action to picketing, protesting and so on.

Picture these freedom fighters wearing Guy Fawkes masks (ala "V for Vendetta") targeting the house of the local school principal, covering it with graffiti, smashing windows, totalling any car, dumping stink bombs down the chimney and so on.
Those places exists in OTL.

There are no attack, even news and lawsuits only happen very rarely. Americans accept those places, their headmaster is respectable people, friend with politicians and judges, they teach parents and teacher of necessity of tough love, people loves them. Any people make trouble would be dealt with by police and judges.
 
Those places exists in OTL.

There are no attack, even news and lawsuits only happen very rarely. Americans accept those places, their headmaster is respectable people, friend with politicians and judges, they teach parents and teacher of necessity of tough love, people loves them. Any people make trouble would be dealt with by police and judges.
Somehow I doubt that, a child that is not embraced by the villager will burn it to feel it's warmth. People have a breaking point until they say screw it and go jackass crazy. I highly doubt a kid or teen will be incentivized to look the other cheek.
 
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I did want to make it clear that I'm not trying to get SirCecil to write this TL a particular way. It's just that here in the Anglosphere, we tend to idolize rogues and "La Resistance".

We Americans romanticize and admire Resistance movements against tyrants - look at the American Revolution or the underground resistance movements in Axis-occupied countries during WW2. And I mentioned Guy Fawkes before - despite his status as a criminal who attempted to blow up Parliament with the Gunpowder Plot, the Brits still have an admiration for the guy not unlike Robin Hood. (Ironically, Fawkes was a pro-Catholic Monarchist and NOT an anarchist or freedom fighter.)
 
Maybe there will be a rise of adults dumping their elderly parents into retirement homes that get shown in 60 minutes in the future.
 
How long before self-proclaimed "Resistance" and "Freedom Fighter" movements attack these behavior modification places or the residences of the people part of the war on youth (judges, prosecutors, school boards, mayors, legislators, county executives, etc)?

There's got to be at least a few out there who must prefer direct action to picketing, protesting and so on.

Picture these freedom fighters wearing Guy Fawkes masks (ala "V for Vendetta") targeting the house of the local school principal, covering it with graffiti, smashing windows, totalling any car, dumping stink bombs down the chimney and so on.
I was thinking Eric and Dylan masks actually, for a bit of twisted irony. The two who were responsible for instigating this brutal legislature somehow end up becoming symbols of the resistance movement against it, with OTL 'Church of Eric and Dylan' online fanclub taking on a whole new sinister role ITL.
 
I was thinking Eric and Dylan masks actually, for a bit of twisted irony. The two who were responsible for instigating this brutal legislature somehow end up becoming symbols of the resistance movement against it, with OTL 'Church of Eric and Dylan' online fanclub taking on a whole new sinister role ITL.
Wonder if an FBI agent is going to shoot a little girl wearing such a mask, then gets lynched like in the "V for Vendetta" movie
 
Will all the teens with criminal records impact military recruitment negatively, or will "join the military" become another option for dealing with troublesome teens?
 
I do wonder about the fate of several other famous figures who would've been teenagers affected by the Post-Columbine Crackdown. Figures like, say, Taylor Swift (although her early country roots might give her some protection, she'd likely begin getting into trouble when she transitioned into mainstream pop), or, to use a more recent example, Jenna Ortega.
 
Let's hope that it's at least the progressive kind of anti-establishment, from Bernie-esque democratic socialism to the various flavours of left-libertarianism, rather than, you know, yellow flags with snakes on them, or flags that were last used in 1945, because those guys would make the lives of the youth even worse.
Or red flags with hammers and sickles while holding images of Lenin and Mao, for that matter.
 
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Will all the teens with criminal records impact military recruitment negatively, or will "join the military" become another option for dealing with troublesome teens?
On that note, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are war crimes against Iraqi or Afghan civilians or POWs that are linked to those troublesome teens sent to the military venting out their frustrations on unfortunate Afghans/Iraqis.
 
On that note, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are war crimes against Iraqi or Afghan civilians or POWs that are linked to those troublesome teens sent to the military venting out their frustrations on unfortunate Afghans/Iraqis.

It's more probable an increase of suicide, drug abuse, domestic violence, psychiatric problem in general; frankly there is the serious risk that the nasty 80's (plus early 90's) in term of crime will be back instead of having the continuous diminishing of crime and violence (paranoia perception fueled by fox news excluded naturally) with the massive influx of people with already a prison history having difficult to found good job and all the consequences of the abuse in this years
 
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