Terror in Littleton: How a tragedy shaped a nation

I do find it kind of odd this is a TL that doesn't focus on pop culture that much, and yet much of the reactions are concerned with plight of this or that piece of relatively innocous nerd media. It's something of an overreaction imo. The US isn't going to war with nerds or banning nerd media, and the social repercussions for being a nerd are entirely comparable to what they were otl. All that's happening is some more explicitly violent stuff is being delayed or toned down. Not that big of a deal in a long run.

Yeah, it's very odd to check into this thread about a kind of mass repression of the American youth is being pursued and see questions about individual cartoons.
 

Beatriz

Gone Fishin'
I wonder if the internet will require age licenses to access - maybe a personal ID separate from a SSN that has to inputted before logging to a browser, and said licenses are temporary “to reduce radicalizations”. And to renew licenses, you need to write down your top 10 visited sites, and hand them to a bureaucrat who will check 1) if they correspond to your search history 2) if they are deemed “safe” of political, violent or sexual content
 
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I wonder if the internet will require age licenses to access - maybe a personal ID separate from a SSN that has to inputted before logging to a browser, and said licenses are temporary “to reduce radicalizations”. And to renew licenses, you need to write down your top 10 visited sites, and hand them to a bureaucrat who will check 1) if they correspond to your search history 2) if they are deemed “safe” of political, violent or sexual content

It's not impossible to imagine an Internet you'd need to input a national ID into every time you use it.
 

Beatriz

Gone Fishin'
It's not impossible to imagine an Internet you'd need to input a national ID into every time you use it.
Yes, and what about the second part?

Also, Couldn’t wikipedia simply omit any articles related to violence and sex at all to get around this. Avoiding bans related to politics by having no article on any country or political leader or war
 
I wonder if the internet will require age licenses to access - maybe a personal ID separate from a SSN that has to inputted before logging to a browser, and said licenses are temporary “to reduce radicalizations”. And to renew licenses, you need to write down your top 10 visited sites, and hand them to a bureaucrat who will check 1) if they correspond to your search history 2) if they are deemed “safe” of political, violent or sexual content
Alternately once web browsing cookies become a thing, a cookie tracks all your activity online and sends it back to some bureaucrat somewhere who reviews everything as mentioned above
 

Beatriz

Gone Fishin'
It's not impossible to imagine an Internet you'd need to input a national ID into every time you use it.
This could further be divided by occupation for viewing certain content. For example, online films or records on childbirth or gynecology or sexual [bleep] may be only licensed to MED-#### holders, and images or footage of war crimes and massacres may only be shown by HIS-#### holders, and classes teaching content have get permission from say, a MED-### holder, and the -### holder has to email someone a letter explaining the circumstances of showing this material, and a signoff from the professor , in order to show it
 
I take it this TL has disrupted anime & manga's influence in America due to concern over popular media inducing violence among youth.
What kind of noncombat anime did Japan have at the time?

Romance, slice of life, and that sort of thing.

Laid Back Camp, Super Cub, Monster Musume, Sweetness and Lightning are some good examples but they're all from the 2010s.
 
How long will this period be going on? Will stuff be delayed not cancelled outright?

The 2010’s? The 2020’s?
 
So make the parents........well, parent their kids?
That would require admitting that the problem lies with the parents and not with the media producers, which does not seem like it will happen in the short term.

I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about Invader Zim, so I have to ask if the show really is that "violent/dangerous" that Nickelodeon would pull it from airing ITTL.
Like I said, it's not that the show is ACTUALLY that "dangerous" but that the producers would rather not risk airing it believing it's harmless and then getting angry lawsuits from angry people who think it's not harmless. I described it as preemptive self-censorship for good reason.

But why would they want to erase all articles about the US?
It is a symbolic protest: just as the United States is erasing the rest of the world's media, they are erasing the United States from Wikipedia.
 
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For that matter, the idea that the rest of the world would be as restrictive as the US post-Columbine is unrealistic. The rest of the world will do what it did IOTL, namely point at the 2nd Amendment and proclaim that It Can't Happen Here. For instance, I would not expect butterflies from the PoD to reach Germany before April 26, 2002.
Why this so specific date?
 
Didn't the Columbine shooters intend to crash a plane in addition to and supposedly after the school shooting?

That was more of a fantasy of what they would have done if they had somehow got away.

In reality, Harris and Klebold knew they were never getting away, which is why they planned to kill themselves at the end of the massacre.
 
Didn't the Columbine shooters intend to crash a plane in addition to and supposedly after the school shooting?

No. Their original plan was to blow up the school cafeteria, then shoot as many of the survivors as they could. And then, after the shooting was over:

Forty five minutes after the initial blast, when the cops declared it was over, paramedics started loading amputees into ambulances, and reporters broadcast the horror to a riveted nation, Eric’s Honda and Dylan’s BMW would rip right through the camera crews and the first responders. Each car was to be loaded with two more propane devices and twenty gallons of gasoline in an assortment of orange plastic jugs. Their positions had been chosen to maximize both the firepower in Act II and the carnage in Act III. The cars would be close to the building, near the main exits—ideal locations for police command, emergency medical staging, and news vans. They would be just far enough from the building and each other to wipe out most of the junior and senior parking lots. Maximum body count: nearly 2,000 students, plus 150 faculty and staff, plus who knows how many police, paramedics, and journalists. [Columbine - Dave Cullen]

However, they didn't expect to still be alive by the time their cars blew up. In the end, it wound up coming down to only the shooting part because none of their bombs went off.
 
Realistically the main consequences of this TL will be something seriously less of the propsed dystopia/collapse of civilization in an anarchic civil war

- Politically: well the Cliton legacy will be lot more controversial between that and the crime bill a lot of the appeal for Bill will evaporate and this can have serious consequences for Hillary career both as senator, secretary of states and presidential candidate with all the logical changes.

- Education system: hell here start the big troubles, between Clinton law and Bush initiative the american pubblic school system is in real troubles, a lot of poorer and barely get even school will suffer greatly for the lack of funds not considering the consequences of transforming the schools in military camp to 'protect' the children. Homeschooling will not resolve anything as it mean more work for the parents and frankly homeschooling is a lot associated with antiscientific/christianuberconservative teaching so in a decade or two the american labor market will face the problem of barely literate people entering the workforce.
Plus there two things that we must take in consideration
1) conservative perennial cultural war regarding books and programs that can use this situation to increase the pressure towards weakened school creating further problem to the school system
2) well all this plan to give money to parents to homeschool the kids can quickly become a big scandal/controversies like the one in Florida
Basically by the time of the first OTL Obama presidency school reform will become a serious problem in the national discourse as an entire generation has been left behind unless it had enough money to get in the right/decent private school.
This can touch also the university as it's not a climate that favor learning and the culture warrior under the guise to protect the youngs will go on full battle mode...honestly it's very probable that we will see an influx of american students go for canadian and european university and a lot of foreigners that in OTL had gone to an university in the USA decide that more quiet place are preferable.

- Social: well we will have an increase of kids sent in prison or prison like facilities and this mean a lot more of traumatizated young people exploited by grifters that promise miracle by sending them in...well not very nice place for education purpose. The other side of the coin is that with the greater numbers come greater scrutiny expecially due to the fact that we are talking of the right type of kid from the media pow (white, middle class, photogenic) and this can create a lot of scandal that this time this companies will be forced to really vanish or go bankrupt. In any case the damage will be done, and between this, the increased numbers of juvenile population with all the consequences for this type of kid in the american society we can look to an increased support for third party as both the GOP and the Dems really screwed up.
The real fear is that with this increased numbers can or probably will come also a small numbers that's fully radicalizated and we can see the born of the american version of the Red Brigade...that usually target policemen and judge or other figure of authority.

- Media: bigger scrutiny, bigger fear of the various editor and network exec to cause controversies and draw attention so we can see a more 'tame' version of the OTL media...this can bring a less media dominance by american production as they can be seen in the rest of the world as 'too tame' and 'childish' and this is the beginning of the moment where the earning from the rest of the world greatly impacted the final gross of a movie.

- Rest of the World: doubt that outside of the Anglosphere the american measure will be even thought to be taken in consideration and even in Canada and UK after the calm will return parents will protest and things will go back to normal (more or less)...hell it's more probable that the various nation look at what happen in the USA as 'How not to do'

It will be the end of the world? The transformation of the USA and later the world in a mad max style wasteland? 1984 2: the electric bogaloo? Nope but there will be more problem and suffering than OTL
 
"Rumors without any basis, spread by people envious of our long history of success in straightening out troublesome kids, by parents incapable of admitting their own failure."
"The director of that institution donates to veterans associations and goes to church every Sunday, there is no way he can be a bad person!"
"Sensational gossip spread by snake oil salesmen disguised as journalists that disgraces this profession and makes all of us real journalists look like liars."
"About this mockumentary that pretends to talk about our schools, I will only comment that there is no doubt that Saddam's dollars have been well spent buying journalists in our country."

The reactions you will obtain from the media.

Generally, a media scandal, as we have seen in recent history from Watergate to the present, is only organized when the circumstance arises that the news is marketable, the accuser has very broad respect and popular support, and the accused person already was detested anyway.

But in this case...

Accusing a bunch of powerful and respected federal, state and local officials?
As well as sheriffs, police officers and directors and staff of educational institutions and juvenile reform schools?
Based exclusively on the accusations of those who for the American population are mostly juvenile delinquents and future mass murderers?

Yes, this is not sellable at all, it would be rejected as "playing the victim" if anyone ever decides to publish it.
After Iraq:

CIA: Saddam why did you waste time and energy bribing people to insult our schools?

Saddam in between dorito chomps: The fuck?!
 
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