Thing is we don't have wheels so travois is the only option.
Yet.
We don't have wheels yet.
Thing is we don't have wheels so travois is the only option.
If you do chariots god things will be interesting. You'd make the need for stronger wapiti a lot more apparent and probably would allow ppl to breed good wapiti to hold larger loads and eventually ppl.Yet.
We don't have wheels yet.
Um... Thanks, I guess?From The Telugu Khan
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Scientists have attempted to domesticate moose. It hasn't worked.You've heard of war elephants, but what about war Moose(meese?)
I don't know if they can act like small cows or oxen, but they will be used for labor eventually.goats also make pretty good animals of labour, if you breed those large enough they could act like small cows, though the goats of the Americas are really a type of antelope, still,
Dogs have long been used in warfare. I don't think goats will be. Wapiti will definitely be.I would like to see war wolves, moose(meese?), goats, and wapiti)
I took inspiration from the Freemasons, the Anglos rite calls god the great architect of the universe(yes I know technically you do not need to believe in the Abrahamic god in Freemasonry), you are the architect of this universe thus a godUm... Thanks, I guess?
they could help with siege enginesI don't know if they can act like small cows or oxen, but they will be used for labor eventually.
my superficial research has found that the soviets had domesticated them(though as livestock) in the '60s, and in Sweden, they have been used to draw sleighs since the 1700s, and funnily enough, the soviets may have used a few in the Winterwar to some capacity. Finally the icing on the cake, a man had tamed a moose and used it just like a horseScientists have attempted to domesticate moose. It hasn't worked.
ok. I guess.I took inspiration from the Freemasons, the Anglos rite calls god the great architect of the universe(yes I know technically you do not need to believe in the Abrahamic god in Freemasonry), you are the architect of this universe thus a god
Surethey could help with siege engines
There is a difference between taming an individual animal and domesticating a group of animals. Taming is just individual animals getting used to human contact and maybe even being trained. Domestication is breeding animals so that they are always friendly to humans and emphasizing some other aspect humans like (ex: fatter animals for slaughter, milk production for milking, etc.)my superficial research has found that the soviets had domesticated them(though as livestock) in the '60s, and in Sweden, they have been used to draw sleighs since the 1700s, and funnily enough, the soviets may have used a few in the Winterwar to some capacity. Finally the icing on the cake, a man had tamed a moose and used it just like a horse
A travios is useful on winding forest trails east of the Mississippi, but on the Great Plains the wheel is a natural invention, just as it was on the Asiatic steppes OTL.Thing is we don't have wheels so travois is the only option.
I mean if ppl put a lot more time to domesticate moose I think it could work, especially if they domesticated reindeer first which seem (?) to have somewhat similar but not the same problems as moose and not having a lot of options. But I don't think it works in this tl bc ppl already have wapiti. If anything I think bison makes more sense as people spread into the plains and start managing bison intensively. It is a lot more likely that bison would be semi-domesticated due to the time frame though. Same with pronghorn. Pronghorn could be managed by putting fences on the routes they normally travel through, which means herding and culling them would be even easier than bison, which would be harder to control in general. But I think much like horses a domesticate that originates from nomads is plausible.There is a difference between taming an individual animal and domesticating a group of animals. Taming is just individual animals getting used to human contact and maybe even being trained. Domestication is breeding animals so that they are always friendly to humans and emphasizing some other aspect humans like (ex: fatter animals for slaughter, milk production for milking, etc.)
Ah that is very true. I can defo see it being developed in the plains where the drawbacks of wheels are minimised and the technology can have its time to mature before being taken back to the more settled areas.A travios is useful on winding forest trails east of the Mississippi, but on the Great Plains the wheel is a natural invention, just as it was on the Asiatic steppes OTL.
Are the East-West trading routes just starting up or have they been here for a while?
so Wooly dogs going to disappear
Very cool to see these developments and other butterflies spreading further west!
Very great chapter!
Maybe.Maybe they could become a status symbol
I wonder how having a readily available animal source of meat, skins, wool and milk might make this culture more competitive, by having a better nutrition, better clothing and a pack animal. And will zoonoses occur? If so then it might make the users less susceptible to mass death from European diseases.