The Great Disney Redux: Another Disney TL

[MrCarioca]

Yup, another Disney TL, even though I have like two other ones which are still incomplete.

So is this another shuffled Disney Canon TL?

No. Well not really, some films will appear earlier or later but the order is mostly the same, even though there will be new films ITTL.

So most Disney fans usually ask questions like: What if Disney somehow retained the rights to Oswald? What if more scrapped projects end up completed and released?

Well in this TL I shall seek to answer those problems.

So buckle up, this is gonna be a wild ride.

 

[MrCarioca]

Walter Elias Disney (1901-1990)

Walt Disney was born in Chicago on December 5th 1901. Walt spent most of his childhood on a farm before moving back and forth through Missouri and Chicago. When World War 1 happened, Walt enlisted in the war as an ambulance driver and was deployed to France as the war came to a close. It was there when he learned the cons of smoking and never really smoked again for the rest of his life.

When Walt returned to America, he discovered this newfound artform called "animation", where drawings came to life. Intrigued, Walt set up his first studio and produced "Laugh-O-Grams", "Alice Comedies" and a series of shorts starring Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. In 1928, Walt would leave his distributor Charles Mintz after he threatened to start his own studio and take Walt's animators with him after Walt asked for a higher salary. Walt would later regain the rights to Oswald in 1929 after a series of lawsuits, but for the time being, Walt had already began to design a new character, this time instead of a rabbit, the character would be a mouse.

 

[MrCarioca]

Steamboat Willie (1928)

"Steamboat Willie" is the same as OTL here, nothing really changes.

However, after a lawsuit against former distributor Charles Mintz, Walt Disney managed to regain the rights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, but by that point Mickey Mouse's popularity had reached an all time high. Oswald himself was relegated to Mickey's sidekick in:

Mickey's Best Friend (1929)

An original cartoon starring Oswald and Mickey. The plot largely follows Mickey and Oswald taking down their nemesis Pete together. The short was released on December 2nd 1929.

The Silly Symphonies are the same as OTL.

 

[Ninja2006]

Cool! How big will the butterflies be ITTL?

 

[redben12]

Great stuff so far, can't wait to see more!

 

[MrCarioca]

Cool! How big will the butterflies be ITTL?

They're not butterflies, they're Hercules Moths.

 

[MrCarioca]

Great stuff so far, can't wait to see more!

Thanks! I can assure you would be in for a treat.

Also I love reading your Restarted with a Mouse TL, keep up the good work!

 

[Ninja2006]

They're not butterflies, they're Hercules Moths.

What are those?

 

[MrCarioca]

What are those?

The Hercules Moth is the biggest moth on Earth. I say that because the butterflies in TTL are gonna be big

 

[Ninja2006]

The Hercules Moth is the biggest moth on Earth. I say that because the butterflies in TTL are gonna be big

Ohh.......How will the competition fare ITTL then? Can't wait!

 

[PGSBHurricane]

I'm guessing the order of the films will be most different from the 1930s to the 1950s as we could see a different film environment for Disney in an alt-WW2 as well as some attempts at making future releases being successful here (maybe Peter Pan is the second Disney movie as intended instead of Bambi or Pinocchio)

 

[Sonny912]

If you'd like some ideas on who or what companies disney would aquire in this timelime, I have some you might like.

First off for the comics(both books and strips) I recommend looking at king features syndicate and dell/gold key comics. These 2 companies were responsible for the printed adventures of Mickey, Donald, and most of all uncle scrooge during the 20th century. Without these guys we wouldn't have had ducktales and by extension the disney afternoon. And acquiring these would grant disney access to guys like popeye, blondie, flash Gordon, mandrake the magician, the phantom, beetle Bailey, Dennis the menace, magnus the robot fighter, turok and doctor solar. disney could hire Jim shooter to be the head editor in chief of this new company after he's fired from marvel and could go on to create the valiant comics heroes to compete with the big two.

 

[MrCarioca]

I'm guessing the order of the films will be most different from the 1930s to the 1950s as we could see a different film environment for Disney in an alt-WW2 as well as some attempts at making future releases being successful here (maybe Peter Pan is the second Disney movie as intended instead of Bambi or Pinocchio)

Spoiler: Peter Pan, Bambi and Pinocchio

I'm currently planning on Pinocchio still releasing in 1940. But either Peter Pan or Alice (or maybe both, in that case Bambi may or may not be affected) will release earlier.

 

[MrCarioca]

The Wise Little Hen (1934)

The Wise Little Hen is known for being the debut cartoon of Donald Duck. Donald would appear in the Mickey Mouse short "Orphan's Benefit", which introduced his trademark temper. TTL's "The Wise Little Hen" has a deleted scene from OTL's version but other than that, the short's the same as OTL. "Orphan's Benefit" has Oswald Rabbit co-host alongside Mickey Mouse, the Clara Cluck scene is butterflied away.
The Band Concert (1935)

The first Mickey Mouse short in color. Only changes are Oswald being the drummer and Donald having a more active role in the tornado sequence.
With his shorts being huge successes, Walt began to draft up an idea unlike any other: A full length animated feature film.

 

[MrCarioca]

These 2 companies were responsible for the printed adventures of Mickey, Donald, and most of all uncle scrooge during the 20th century.

Well, there would be one butterfly regarding the comic strips around the 1940s.

And acquiring these would grant disney access to guys like popeye, blondie, flash Gordon, mandrake the magician, the phantom, beetle Bailey, Dennis the menace, magnus the robot fighter, turok and doctor solar.

That's a lot of IPs. I'll try to include at least one.

 

[MrCarioca]

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)

Directors:
David Hand
Perce Pearce
William Cottrell
Larry Morey
Wilfred Jackson
Ben Sharpsteen

Cast:
Adrianna Caselotti (Snow White)
Harry Stockwell (Prince Hans)
Lucille La Verne (The Evil Queen)
Stuart Buchanan (The Huntsman)
Roy Atwell (Doc)
Pinto Colvig (Grumpy)
Otis Harlan (Happy)
Sterling Holloway (Sleepy)
Walt Disney (Bashful)
Billy Gilbert (Deafy)
Mel Blanc (Dopey)

"Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" premiered at the Carthay Circle Theater on December 21st 1937, the film was a huge success and proved that animated films were indeed profitable and enjoyable. Walt had succeeded in lifting the artform of animation and was ready to produce even more aniamted films.

ITTL, Sneezy is replaced by Deafy (a proposed dwarf character IOTL), Sterling Holloway voices Sleepy, Mel Blanc voices Dopey and Walt himself voices Bashful. As for the film itself, the scene where the prince is captured by the queen is kept as well as the cloud sequence.

 

[MrCarioca]

One significant butterfly is that Mel Blanc never signs the exclusivity contract with Warner Bros in 1941, meaning he could voice Disney (and potentially other studio's) characters as well as Looney Tunes characters.

 

[MrCarioca]

Pinocchio (1939)

Directors:
Ben Sharpsteen
Hamilton Luske

Cast:
Dickie Jones (Pinocchio)
Cliff Edwards (Jiminy Cricket)
Pinto Colvig (Geppetto)
Clarence Nash (Figaro)
Walter Catlett (Honest John)
Mel Blanc (Gideon)
Charles Judels (Stromboli and the Coachman)
Adrianna Caselotti (The Blue Fairy and Alexander the Talking Donkey)
Frankie Darro (Lampwick)
Thurl Ravenscroft (Monstro)

Intially considering "Peter Pan", "Alice in Wonderland" and "Bambi, a Life in the Woods" as his second film, Walt settled on the Italian novel "Pinocchio". The film took two years to make and even had its script rewritten. "Pinocchio" premiered on December 25th 1939 and released nationwide on January 10th. Despite reception being positive and audiences overall liking the film, the film's high budget coupled with World War 2 raging on in Europe greatly affected the film's performance, and it ended up only as a mild box office success.

ITTL, Mel Blanc has actual voice lines for Gideon rather than a few hiccups, Pinocchio is more rebellious at the start of the film, and Christian Rub is replaced by Pinto Colvig. The film also releases earlier, on Christmas Day 1939 so it performs somewhat better at the box office.

 

[MrCarioca]

Next update:

Spoiler

Baby

 

[Sonny912]

Next update:

Spoiler

Baby

That is a very vague hint.