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Adult Swim would likely be the far better fit for it if that had to happen. I just can't see it being on Comedy Central. Maybe MTV2 tho...
I agree Adult Swim would be the best pick, but would Spike TV be a good alternative?
Cool. How much longer could TMNT 2012 last?
Not too sure at the moment, but I can see Rise being delayed as a result.
wait what???
I put that in as a joke.
Well, I think it'd likely still shut down at some point.....but if not 2008, then either 2012 or 2014 at the latest.
Tbf my post is quite idealistic, but it'd be nice if it lasted at least a few more years.
How would that work?

Cool! What about Toonami?
I think they could get away with it, given the 22 years of shows under their belt. I forgot to cover Toonami, but I suppose it can take Adult Swim's place on CN or also branch into its own channel.
Creator of an infamous movie. Another joke entry, based on a YT comment I read a while back.

Thanks for the input, glad you liked it. Not all ideas are mine though, so credit where it's due.
 
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I'll throw my hat into the ring. This is inspired by a few other takes, namely those of @CountDVB, @TheDetailer, @connorCD and a deleted user, among others I may be forgetting (if this is too similar, I'm more than willing to change it). A lot of this is super idealistic, so don't take it too seriously.

Nintendo
  • NES:
    • The ROM chip shortage doesn't happen or is less severe, preventing several games from being discontinued or getting late overseas releases.
    • Mother 1 is localised.
  • Game Boy/Game Boy Color:
    • Pokemon Red & Blue are localised earlier, as the source code isn't a mess. Black 2 & White 2's difficulty settings are implemented from the start.
    • More Game Boy titles (Metroid II, Kirby's Dream Land 2, etc) get DX versions.
  • SNES:
    • Star Fox 2 isn't cancelled.
    • The Virtual Boy doesn't get made, so VB Wario Land is released as Super Wario Land.
    • Earthbound doesn't suffer from poor advertising.
    • BS Legend of Zelda is localised.
    • Super Mario's Wacky Worlds is moved to the SNES after the CD-i failure.
  • N64:
    • Uses CDs and is easier to develop for.
    • Square and Capcom stick with Nintendo, leading Final Fantasy VII and other titles to be released here instead of the PS1.
    • Metroid 64 isn't cancelled.
    • Argonaut isn't screwed over and their 3D Yoshi pitch is approved.
    • Goldeneye's multiplayer has previous Bond likenesses.
    • Dinosaur Planet is finished and released as the console's swansong, in the wake of Nintendo buying Rare.
    • Sin & Punishment and Conker's Bad Fur Day are delayed to the GameCube's launch.
  • Game Boy Advance:
    • Tomato Adventure and Panel De Pon are localised.
    • DK Coconut Crackers and Diddy Kong Pilot are released in their original forms.
    • Pokemon Yellow gets the remake treatment alongside FireRed and LeafGreen.
    • Mario vs Donkey Kong is a one-off and has Cranky (using a youth potion from the cartoon) as the antagonist.
  • GameCube:
    • Is more successful (but still not on PS2 levels) and uses normal discs.
    • Super Smash Bros. Melee gets another six months of development, allowing for additional content and more fine-tuned gameplay.
    • GTA (III, Vice City, San Andreas), Psychonauts and Half-Life 2 (which retains some elements from the beta) receive ports.
    • Star Fox Adventures comes out later, acting as a spiritual successor to Dinosaur Planet, and reintroduces Fay and Miyu. Assault is longer and doesn't have the on-foot sections.
    • Mega Man X6's level design, bosses and localisation are polished up, while X7 is in 2D and better dubbed.
    • Diddy Kong Racing Adventure and Kirby Tilt N Tumble 2 aren't cancelled.
    • A Donkey Kong 64 sequel releases in place of Grabbed by the Ghoulies.
    • Kameo is released a few years earlier as its original vision, with over 60 monsters to befriend.
    • Shadow the Hedgehog's gameplay is less slippery and follows a single storyline.
  • DS:
    • Mother 3 is released here instead of at the end of the GBA's lifespan.
    • A Smash Bros. game similar to SSF2 and the DS Homebrew games is released in 2011.
    • Wario: Master of Disguise is a Waluigi game.
    • Sonic Colours is only released on DS; the Wii version is replaced by a Silver game.
  • Wii:
    • Nintendo coughs up the fee for DVD functionality.
    • Sakurai secures a separate developer for Subspace Emissary, allowing the team to focus on the rest of Brawl.
    • An HD revision on par with the PS3 and 360 is released in 2010.
    • Metroid Prime 3 is compatible with the GameCube controller.
    • No More Heroes 2 has a better final boss and is later rereleased on 360 and PS3.
    • Sonic & the Secret Rings is cancelled in order to finish 06, which releases in 2007 as Adventure 3.
    • Rayman 4 isn’t cancelled; Raving Rabbids is its own IP.
    • Conker: Live and Reloaded is a sequel, based on the Other Bad Fur Day pitch.
    • Banjo-Threeie releases instead of Nuts & Bolts.
    • Mario Party 9 and subsequent titles play like the first eight games.
    • Donkey Kong Country Returns is co-developed by Rare and Retro Studios and brings back the Kremlings.
    • Sonic Generations is longer (twelve stages with two zones for each Sonic) and is ported to Wii instead of 3DS.
    • Metroid: Other M is a prequel.
    • Star Wars: Rogue Leaders isn't cancelled.
    • Mega Man X9 and X10 are made, wrapping up the New Gen/Wily plots and setting the stage for the Zero series.
  • 3DS:
    • Bomberman 3DS isn’t cancelled.
    • Paper Mario 64 is remade in place of Sticker Star.
    • The fifth Mario & Luigi game is a Wario crossover.
    • Yoshi's New Island is never made.
    • Project Valkyrie is revived and released instead of Federation Force.
    • Kirby & the Rainbow Curse is released here instead of on Wii U
    • Pokemon Z gets made, with Sun & Moon pushed back to the Switch.
    • Pokemon Go is ported to the eShop, making use of the system's camera and Spotpass.
    • Mega Man Star Force 4, ZXC and Legends 3 aren't cancelled. Maverick Hunter X and Powered Up are released much later than they originally were.
  • Wii U (renamed to Nintendo U or something):
    • Launches in fall 2013.
    • Is as powerful as its competitors, better marketed and sees more third party support.
    • Rare works on Tropical Freeze, as Retro's pitch for Star Fox Armada is accepted.
    • Smash 4 (known ITTL as Rumble, Crash, 4-Ever or something else) isn't released on 3DS, but gets an Adventure Mode.
    • Eternal Darkness 2 manages to be released, as Silicon Knights doesn't shut down.
    • F-Zero makes a comeback.
    • Pikmin 4 comes out in 2015, with the one on Switch becoming Pikmin 5.
    • The three game deal with Sega is never signed. Lost World is replaced by an Adventure trilogy, with remakes of the first two and a port of the third, and Boom is released as originally envisioned.
    • Paper Mario: Colour Splash plays like the first two games, has partners and more original characters/settings and an original villain.
  • Switch:
    • Is released later due to its predecessor performing better.
    • Has menu themes, no Joy-Con drift or paid online service and brings back Virtual Console
    • Super Mario Odyssey gets additional kingdoms and a playable Luigi as DLC.
    • Kirby Star Allies is longer and mixes Amazing Mirror’s nonlinear level design with the gameplay of Heroes in Another Dimension.
    • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is delayed to Christmas 2019, receiving better online and singleplayer content.
    • Rare works on a sixth DKC game, as Retro is busy with Prime 4.
    • Tomodachi Life, Xenoblade X and Kid Icarus Uprising get ported.
    • Sonic Mania and Superstars feature the modern cast (with gameplay now in line with the Advance and Rush games) and all original zones.
    • Sonic Forces is a Shadow game and releases later. A Metarex game is released in 2021 to celebrate the series' 30th anniversary. Unsure what to do with Frontiers.
    • With the 3DS dying, the remakes of Epic Yarn, Luigi's Mansion and Superstar Saga are released here instead; Tomato Adventure is remade over Bowser's Inside Story.
  • Miscellaneous:
    • The copyright system isn’t abused, so mods, fangames and anything else under fair use don’t suffer.
    • Custom Robo, Golden Sun and other smaller series receive more attention, seeing future releases and the same level of popularity as the B-tier Nintendo franchises.
    • Iwata and Yokoi survive.
    • The Mario, Kirby and Metroid Archie comics are greenlit.
Video Games
  • General:
    • Price tags don't cross the $40 mark.
    • Aren't blamed for violent tendencies.
    • The industry isn't affected by propaganda and politics.
    • Journalists taking gaming seriously.
    • No gacha or microtransactions.
  • Sony:
    • Family friendly IPs aren't shafted.
    • Crash and Spyro are sold to them instead of Activision (with the former becoming the company's de facto mascot).
    • Skylanders isn't a Spyro spinoff (though he does show up as a guest).
    • Silent Hills isn't cancelled.
    • The PSP doesn't suffer as much from piracy.
    • The Last of Us 2 is better received.
    • PlayStation All-Stars is made earlier as Sony's answer to Smash (though it doesn't reach the same levels of success). Based on this, minus Snake and Cloud.
  • Microsoft:
    • The original Xbox is backwards compatible with the Dreamcast.
    • The Xbox One is released as the Xbox 720 (just as everyone predicted back in the day).
    • Buys out Bioware.
    • After selling Minecraft, Notch becomes a philanthropist.
  • Sega:
    • The Nomad and 32X aren't made; all efforts are put into making the Saturn the best it can be. Despite this (and a true Sonic 4 that butterflies away the Dimps version), it and the Dreamcast are still defeated by the PS1 and N64.
    • NiGHTS, Ristar and other franchises aren't abandoned and continue to get games in the 2010s.
  • Mobile:
    • The classic Angry Birds games aren't removed from the App Store.
    • Lite games still exist.
  • Other:
    • Konami, Activision-Blizzard, EA and Ubisoft don't fuck up.
    • Pandemic, Maxis, Westwood, Bioware and Visceral Games are still up and running.
    • As said by @Hulkster'01, a Jontron game akin to AVGN Adventures is made.
    • Emulation doesn't get compared to piracy.
    • Call of Duty ends after Black Ops 2.
    • Duke Nukem Forever is released much earlier, thanks to Digital Extremes taking over development.
    • Similarly, Ride to Hell: Retribution avoids going into development hell and keeps its open world format.
    • Fortnite is released in 2011 as the initially intended sandbox survival game.
    • The sequels to The Simpsons Game and Hit & Run aren't canned.
    • Half-Life 3 is released.
    • Club Penguin doesn't shut down.
    • Lego Dimensions gets a complete edition with all characters and worlds unlocked from the get-go.
    • To compensate for no fourth movie, a sequel to the BTTF Telltale game is made, focusing on Marty Jr.
    • Bully 2 isn't cancelled.
    • Deltarune is a sequel.
    • 87% of games released before 2010 don't go (or are at risk of becoming) lost.
    • Five Nights at Freddy's ends with the fourth game, which tells a simpler story about Michael and his brother.
Movies
  • General:
    • Practical effects and animatronics are still popular.
    • Nowhere near as many sequels and remakes/reboots are made.
    • Animation isn't treated as a genre and is held to the same standard as live action.
    • 2D animation is still widely used, co-existing with CGI.
    • Less studio fires.
    • Twist villains are better handled.
  • Disney:
    • Walt Disney quits smoking sooner and lives until the late 80s.
    • Doesn't buy Lucasfilm, Fox or Marvel.
    • The Search for Mickey Mouse isn’t cancelled and releases in place of Chicken Little.
    • Most of the direct-to-video sequels are made into TV shows (as first planned). Cinderella: A Twist in Time, The Lion King 1/2 and Simba's Pride, Aladdin: King of Thieves and 101 Dalmatians: Patch's London Adventure still exist.
    • Toy Story 4 and the Cars sequels aren't made. Monsters University is replaced by Lost in Scaradise and The Incredibles 2 follows a different storyline, with a timeskip to the 70s.
    • Wreck-it Ralph and Brave swap studios.
    • None of the live action remakes are made, except Cinderella, The Jungle Book and Pete's Dragon.
    • Indiana Jones and Pirates of the Caribbean end after their third movies.
    • Blue Sky Studios survives.
    • Pixar movies still end with outtakes.
  • Dreamworks:
    • Chris Farley survives his drug overdose, but drops out of Shrek. He later cameos as one of the ogres in Forever After.
    • Shrek the Third is skipped over. A TV show and shorts (like Shrek the Halls) serve to fill the gaps between 2 and Forever After.
    • B.O.O. and Me & My Shadow are completed and released
    • Rise of the Guardians is a box office success
    • Illumination is never founded; the first two Despicable Me movies and The Super Mario Bros. Movie are released under Dreamworks
    • The Cat in the Hat is animated.
    • Shark Tale still exists, but only for the laughs.
  • Paramount:
    • Wayne's World 2 uses its original script, as Paramount gets permission to base it on Passport to Pimlico, and performs better at the box office. The Waynestock plot is reused in a third movie.
    • The Sonic movies are animated (in the same style as Unleashed's cutscenes) and are more faithful to the games.
    • Hey Arnold: The Jungle Movie is made in the 2000s.
  • Sony:
    • The Angry Birds Movies are based on the Toons, using designs from the games and removing dialogue (which is made up for with the silent comedy). A third movie, inspired by Angry Birds Space, is also made.
    • Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye movie is accepted over The Emoji Movie.
    • Lauren Faust gets to make her Medusa movie.
    • The Amazing Spider-Man movies are done better and a third one gets made.
  • Warner Bros:
    • Finished movies don’t go unreleased.
    • Heath Ledger lives, wins awards for his Joker performance and returns in The Dark Knight Rises.
    • The Iron Giant is advertised better and earns more at the box office.
    • Looney Toons: Back in Action does better, leading to more live action/animated hybrid movies (including the cancelled Skate Jam).
    • Tim Burton gets creative control over Batman Forever, & Robin and Triumphant (with Kilmer in all three), as well as Superman Lives.
    • The DCEU is on par with the MCU.
  • Fox:
    • William Fox avoids his car accident.
    • Home Alone 2 and 3 are shot back-to-back (as originally proposed). The fourth movie and beyond aren't made.
    • Phil Hartman is never murdered and stars in a live action Troy McClure movie
    • All five Percy Jackson books are adapted (and are good).
    • Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul and the Disney+ movies don't exist. A Cabin Fever Christmas special (either live action or 2D animated) and a 2021 reunion movie are made instead, both starring the original cast.
  • Other:
    • Ghostbusters 2 is better and is shortly followed by a third movie.
    • An earlier The Expendables, as described by @thekingsguard, replaces Last Action Hero.
    • Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a commercial success.
    • The Godfather: Part III is on par with the first two.
    • Spielberg directs the prequels, while Lucas handles the sequels.
    • Four Mario movies are made; The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach (eventually dubbed into English), the live action one (which doesn't have a messy production and follows the original "fantasy" script), an adaptation of Super Paper Mario and the aforementioned 2023 movie.
    • Foodfight is cancelled after the hard drive theft.
    • Marvel gets the rights back for the Raimi movies. Spider Man 3 focuses on the New Goblin, while Venom is in the fourth film. Maguire's Spider-Man is part of the MCU, with Holland as Ben Reilly.
    • The Terminator ends after Judgement Day.
    • Jim Carrey stars in The Mask 2 instead of another Ace Ventura.
    • John Carpenter is allowed to make Halloween an anthology series. Halloween II is reworked into a completely different movie, though Michael Myers eventually returns in a Hellraiser crossover and H20.
    • A Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th conclude after their fourth and sixth movies respectively (discounting New Nightmare and Jason X). Freddy vs Jason happens a decade or so earlier and is followed by a sequel that brings in Ash Williams.
    • Taken, Jurassic Park and Jaws are standalone films.
TV (Animated)
  • Nickelodeon:
    • The Fairly Odd Parents ends after Meet the Oddparents.
    • SpongeBob's sixth to ninth seasons are better. Sponge on the Run and any future movies aren't made, neither are Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show. However, we do get a cheesy live-action spinoff based on Birthday Blowout.
    • Invader Zim is moved to Adult Swim or Comedy Central and runs longer.
    • Fanboy & ChumChum and Adventure Time swap channels.
    • TMNT 2012 lasts longer.
    • Planet Sheen is replaced by a Jimmy Neutron revival
    • Danny Phantom's third season isn't rushed and concludes with Danny battling Dark Danny. Butch's other shows aren't made.
    • The Loud House isn't as mean spirited and ends after season 3.
    • Breadwinners, Pig Goat Banana Cricket, etc are never made.
    • Ian Hawke is a main character in the ALVINNNN! cartoon
  • Warner Bros:
    • Kids WB doesn't shut down.
    • Adult Swim is its own channel.
    • Regular Show is more popular, as Adventure Time is on Nick. The dome is never introduced and the series ends with a final battle between Klorgbane and Skips.
    • The Looney Tunes Show gets more seasons and actual characters show up instead of basic humans.
    • Upon the return of Cool Cat, Derek Savage attempts to sue Warner and gets CRUSHED in the courtroom.
    • Star Wars: The Clone Wars gets a longer sixth season and cancelled arcs are made. Rebels has the same animation style and doesn't air on Disney.
    • Teen Titans, Sym-Bionic Titan and Young Justice run longer.
    • Dexter’s Laboratory ends after Ego Trip.
    • Freakazoid is more popular and eventually gets a revival.
    • Clarence and Uncle Grandpa aren't overhated.
    • Instead of the reboot, Ben 10 Omniverse gets a continuation.
    • Velma, Teen Titans Go, PowerPuff 2016, etc aren't made.
  • Disney:
    • The rights to Oswald are regained in 1929, but Mickey remains the star of the show.
    • Toon Disney and Playhouse Disney aren't rebranded. Jetix is never shut down.
    • Milo Murphy's Law, American Dragon: Jake Long and Spectacular Spider-Man last a few more seasons.
    • The third season of Gargoyles written as originally envisioned.
  • Fox:
    • The Simpsons concludes after Behind the Laughter, although the movie still happens.
    • Family Guy is cancelled in 2002, but comes back for the occasional special (Road to the Multiverse, the Star Wars trilogy and such).
    • The Cleveland Show is replaced by a Joe Swanson spinoff that parodies cop shows.
    • King of the Hill gets a proper conclusion.
  • Other
    • Sonic SatAM gets a third season.
    • Mega Man: Fully Charged is accurate to the games. A Mega Man X anime based on the Day of Sigma is also made.
    • Bluey isn’t as overrated.
TV (Live Action)
  • Nickelodeon:
    • Sam & Cat isn't made. Victorious gets a fourth season and a finale.
    • Nick stops making sitcoms after Big Time Rush concludes, putting focus on its animated shows instead.
  • Warner Bros:
    • CN Real never exists.
    • The 60s Batman show lasts until 1970, as the set doesn’t burn down.
  • Other:
    • Better Call Saul wins at least one Emmy.
    • The Office (US) ends after Steve Carrell leaves.
    • The Zelda Netflix series isn't leaked.
    • Janet Hubert doesn't feud with Will Smith and stays on The Fresh Prince.
    • Freak and Geeks lasts a few more seasons.
    • Dexter ends with him paying for his crimes instead of becoming a lumberjack.
    • Sesame Street continues to be like the original seasons instead of the modern kiddy sh*t.
Music
  • Michael Jackson doesn't die of drug intoxication, managing to finish the This Is It tour before retiring.
  • Elvis is freed from the Colonel and marries Ann Margaret.
  • John Lennon avoids his assassination attempt and George Harrison stops smoking earlier. The Beatles eventually reunite.
  • Kurt Cobain’s suicide is prevented; Nirvana is still going strong today.
  • Biggie, Tupac and Freddie Mercury are still alive.
  • Friday and Baby never explode in popularity.
  • MTV still airs music videos and isn’t ruined by reality shit.
Internet
  • General:
    • Is used more productively.
    • Social media and the internet are a lot tamer, much less toxic than OTL.
    • Stricter rules are put in place for harassment and other unwarranted behaviours.
    • Copyright is less of a problem, as there is a greater respect for fair use.
    • Websites and social media don't suffer from corporatization.
    • Memes don't go off the deep end, sticking to their simpler forms from the late 2000s/early 2010s.
  • YouTube:
    • Doesn’t get bought by Google or fall to the dumpster.
    • Still has channel customisation, star ratings, dislikes, etc.
    • Has an old school mode like Reddit
    • Isn't ruined by COPPA.
    • Buys Twitch at some point.
    • As mentioned by other users, YouTV is launched as a means for corporate channels to upload music videos, movie trailers and the like.
    • Screwattack doesn’t shut down and Death Battle never partners with Rooster Teeth.
    • Edd Gould survives and continues working on Eddsworld, as Super Average with Tomska. Tord Larsson isn't harassed off the internet.
    • Toonsynth Productions and brain4breakfast are also still alive.
    • Monty Oum doesn't die and continues making RWBY.
    • Annoying Orange is retired after a few years and doesn't get a TV show.
    • James Rolfe runs his channel independently after leaving Screwattack and doesn't make the AVGN movie. He retires the Nerd after the Mega Man episode.
    • Smosh stays together.
    • Channel Awesome doesn't get into controversy. Nostalgia Critic doesn't make a comeback.
    • Cartoon Fight Club is a parody of the 1999 movie, as was initially the plan, where Mordecai and Rigby find themselves in an underground fight club run by other fictional/cartoon characters.
    • Nikocado Avacado never gets into mukbanging.
  • Other:
    • NFTs never exist.
    • Windows XP and Adobe Flash are still supported.
    • Vine survives.
    • Newgrounds is still popular (and a sequel to Rumble gets made).
    • MySpace doesn't become a shell of its former self.
    • Elon never buys Twitter.
Other
  • Physical media isn't dying out.
  • Logos don't suffer from oversimplification.
  • Reading is a more popular pastime
  • Infomercials don't exist.
  • Blockbuster and Netflix merge.
  • Christopher Reeve avoids his horse riding accident.
  • Chadwick Boseman, Gilbert Gottfried, Kobe Bryant, Robin Williams, Verne Troyer, Steve Irwin, Bob Saget, Owen Hart, John Candy, Alan Rickman, Anton Yelchin, Michael Clarke Duncan and John Hurt are still alive.
  • June Foray, Betty White and Peter Sallis live to see their 100th birthdays, passing away shortly after.
  • No Twilight.
  • Netflix and Blockbuster merge at some point.
  • Autism Speaks is never founded.
  • COVID-19 is contained before it has the chance to spread.
  • Epstein, Weinstein, Saville and others are exposed earlier.
I'll continue adding to this over time.
Oh that’s nice! Thank you for the shoutout! I’m happy that I and some other members helped to inspire you!
 
GTA (III, Vice City, San Andreas), Psychonauts and Half-Life 2 (which retains some elements from the beta) receive ports.
I remember hearing about GTA III and Vice City having GameCube ports that were planned in OTL, but cancelled during production. I don't remember San Andreas having a GameCube port planned, though. Could the GameCube even support GTA San Andreas? It was a pretty big game.

Doesn't buy Lucasfilm, Fox or Marvel.
I know that Fox would be on its own if Disney didn't buy it out and that Lucasfilm's movies will be released by Fox (Star Wars) and Paramount (Indiana Jones), but who buys out Marvel?

Blue Sky Studios survives.
Yes! It was pretty stupid of Disney to shut them down in OTL. Since the mouse house doesn't buy Fox, Blue Sky Studios remain.

  • Chris Farley survives his drug overdose, but drops out of Shrek. He later cameos as one of the ogres in Forever After.
  • Shrek the Third is skipped over. A TV show and shorts (like Shrek the Halls) serve to fill the gaps between 2 and Forever After.
I think that this is a pretty good compromise. Keeping Chris Farley alive but still having the OTL Shrek come out. Farley appearing as one of the ogres in Shrek Forever After is a nice Easter egg.

Even though I don't hate Shrek the Third, I do think that it's the weakest of the Shrek movies. I do wonder what Shrek the TV Series would be like though.

Hey Arnold: The Jungle Movie is made in the 2000s.
To make this happen, Hey Arnold's creator will have to remain at Nickelodeon instead of going over to Cartoon Network to produce his failed pilot Party Wagon.
 
What controversy?
I'm not 100% up to speed with things, but wasn't there a Google Doc about them mistreating their employees?
About 5 years ago a anonymous, disgruntled ex-Channel Awesome employee compiled and released a massive Google Doc describing in detail multiple serious allegations of employee mistreatment and sexual misconduct by both management and content creators at the platform.

After the bombshell expose was publicly released, basically everybody who created content for Channel Awesome left the site (my impression is that most of them were unaware of just how bad things were), leaving only the Nostalgia Critic (who had founded Channel Awesome, largely to escape YouTube repeatedly and arbitrarily demonitizing and/or taking down his fair-use criticism videos).

Many of the former Channel Awesome content creators are still active to this day as independent creators on YouTube. The Nostalgia Critic is also still actively creating content today, though IIRC his subcribers/view counts took a major hit in the wake of the scandals.

BTW, if you have 5 hours to spare (yes, it's that long), Fredrik Knutsen (best known for his "Down the Rabbit Hole" video series) read the document of allegations on a livestream. (content note that this does describe multiple incidents of sexual misconduct)
 
That was never leaked, Nintendo just say no and the producers throw a Fit and announced an IP they didn't have at all infuriating Nintendo
 
I agree Adult Swim would be the best pick, but would Spike TV be a good alternative?
IMO, Spike would be a worse home than even Comedy Central......
Not too sure at the moment, but I can see Rise being delayed as a result.
Maybe have the Rise movie release in 2022/2023 while the series premieres the next year.
I put that in as a joke.
Oh.....
Tbf my post is quite idealistic, but it'd be nice if it lasted at least a few more years.
I'm not shooting the idea down. In fact, I think they should have kept the block running. How would it's last few seasons pan out?
I think they could get away with it, given the 22 years of shows under their belt. I forgot to cover Toonami, but I suppose it can take Adult Swim's place on CN or also branch into its own channel.
Sorry. The ship has long sailed. The best bet was having them get their own channel in 2014 replacing TruTV, or CNX launching Stateside in the 2000s.
Creator of an infamous movie. Another joke entry, based on a YT comment I read a while back.

Thanks for the input, glad you liked it. Not all ideas are mine though, so credit where it's due.
Ok. You're welcome.
 
How about it lasts for 8 seasons
Sounds good 👍
That was never leaked, Nintendo just say no and the producers throw a Fit and announced an IP they didn't have at all infuriating Nintendo
You mean the Zelda show? If so, I’ll change that. Thanks for the heads up.
BTW, if you have 5 hours to spare (yes, it's that long), Fredrik Knutsen (best known for his "Down the Rabbit Hole" video series) read the document of allegations on a livestream. (content note that this does describe multiple incidents of sexual misconduct)
Will check it out when I get the chance.
Sorry. The ship has long sailed. The best bet was having them get their own channel in 2014 replacing TruTV, or CNX launching Stateside in the 2000s.
Alright, I’ll see what I can do.
I remember hearing about GTA III and Vice City having GameCube ports that were planned in OTL, but cancelled during production. I don't remember San Andreas having a GameCube port planned, though. Could the GameCube even support GTA San Andreas? It was a pretty big game.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the GameCube stronger than the PS2? I think it could’ve worked out if Nintendo used normal discs.
I know that Fox would be on its own if Disney didn't buy it out and that Lucasfilm's movies will be released by Fox (Star Wars) and Paramount (Indiana Jones), but who buys out Marvel?
Not sure yet. I remember hearing that Michael Jackson wanted to buy them, but I’ve got no clue what he’d do with them.
I might use this one for my own TL (too early to say though, but once that day comes i'll give you credit)
I’m not the first to suggest it, but go ahead. Feel free to use any ideas from my post. I look forward to seeing your TL.
 
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The Netherlands gets an Open Sesame show in 1973. In 1976, it is replaced with Sesamstraat, which in this timeline, has Ieniemienie from the start instead of her being introduced in 1980.
 
Another crack at it using political PoDs:

1) Al Gore wins 2000 (with or without 9/11): in the case of the former, there’s less paranoia, no presidential speeches about an axis of evil, nor a push against Iraq. It’s possible that Gore even accepts the offer from the taliban to hand over Bin Laden in exchange for a bombing halt in Afghanistan. If that’s the case, Gore gets to ride 2004 as the man who got Bin Laden in a matter of weeks, and without a single boot on the ground. Never Forget is much smaller, but much purer, as it’s not immediately contrasted with the absolute destruction of Afghanistan/Iraq. Also, a greater focus on Enron and other corporate malfeasance. Also, Microsoft might be broken up!

In the case of the latter, we get a continued sense of the optimism of the 90’s, though with the almost fantastical cynicism of the era as well. We don’t get truthers, nor a legitimization of conspiracy theories nor rampant Islamophobia.

2) Disgraced former (then) doctor Andrew Wakefield grows a conscience: no modern anti-vax movement. Enough said.

3) No Waco/Ruby Ridge sieges: much less credence to the 90’s far right militia movement, as well as no OK City bombing.

4) Ted Kennedy wins the 1980 primary. Even if he still loses (Reagan’s too strong, or the Dems too disunited or whatever), if he puts on a much better show than Carter (especially if Anderson drops out and endorses Kennedy), then liberal Dems have a much stronger hold on the party during this period, and the myth of Reagan is taken down a few notches, while Kennedy is seen in a better light.

5) Carter lets the Shah into the country earlier. Assuming he played his cards right, and could do plausible deniability, it could butterfly the oil and hostage crises, which would most likely save his presidency from Reagan, though cost him to Kennedy in the primary. Better historical view of Carter, dents the Reagan myth, and a more optimistic view of the 70’s.

6) Baker v. Nelson is taken up by the Supreme Court and decided in favor of Baker. Gay marriage is found to be constitutional in 1972. Huge social effects, and if/when AIDS comes along, you’ll have many gay couples where there are visitation rights, as well as insurance, and widow’s benefits.

7) No Vietnam/Korea. The US is seen as being much more peaceful, there’s not post-war disruption of good feelings nor prosperity. Truman might get a third term, or not. LBJ gets a second term and gets to fully focus on civil rights and the Great Society and the alleviation of poverty. The 60’s is remembered as the Civil Rights Era, and with no distractions, more progress can be done. As MLK said, it’s hard to arouse the conscience of a nation at war.

8) Nixon is impeached and removed from office, and is criminally charged (no pardon). Sets a president that no one is above the law, and that, in fact, just because the President does it, doesn’t mean that it is not illegal.

9) LBJ/Humphrey expose the X-File. Even if violating the Logan Act carries a slap on the wrist penalty, the massive shakeup to the election (and the consequences for those convicted would be huge). (This assumes at least Vietnam still happens, but ends thanks to the 1968 Paris Peace Talks). LBJ/Humphrey get at least a term to focus on Civil Rights, the end of Vietnam, and Nixon (and Kissinger) are removed from political life forever.

10) Papal succession is widely different. Each of these can be their own PoD for their respective Papal conclaves from OTL, but I’ll just add them in order to get a better narrative.

Mariano Rampolla is elected in the 1903 conclave, showing an outright defiance of an imperial veto. Pietro Maffi is elected in 1913, a liberal pope who supported a “Fight to the finish” policy for WW1. Hell of a PoD on its own. (Especially as ITTL, the church would explicitly endorse the fighting in WW1.)

Succeeded by Pietro Gasparri in 1931 as a transition. Then Elia Dalla Costa is elected in 1934, a strong anti-fascist (and anti-communist) he most likely excommunicates Hitler in 1938 at Mussolini’s request (yeah, that blew my mind as well). A much more anti-Nazi Church is a huge deal, and helps with the reputation. Hitler probably greenlights the plot to kidnap him, so he’s replaced by OTL’s Pius XII who abdicates in 1954 due to illness.

Replaced by Giacomo Lercaro, a liberal’s liberal and the main cheerleader of Vatican II, he’ll follow the recommendations on contraception (meaning the Catholic Church will most likely encourage the use in Africa and against AIDS rather than saying it’s evil to use them). Finally, elected the Brazilian cardinal Aloísio Lorscheider (believer in liberation theology) after Lercaro’s death, leading to a 31 year papacy (3rd longest). This impacts not only the church itself, making it more socially open and focused on the poor and on reform, but also most likely changed the views of some of our most famous Catholic politicians, such as the Kennedy’s, as well as a certain Joe from Scranton.

11) A) Small, but nice: John Glenn’s elected to the senate in 1964, meaning he’s a member of the senate when the US first lands on the moon.
B) McCarthy loses the primary to La Follette, and Nixon loses to Helen Gahagan Douglas, meaning McCarthyism (in the form we know it in from OTL) doesn’t exist. (Also, LBJ’s affair with her continues, which is wild that LBJ had enough game to pull a movie star. Jumbo’s power mustn’t be underestimated.)
 
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Another crack at it using political PoDs:

1) Al Gore wins 2000 (with or without 9/11): in the case of the former, there’s less paranoia, no presidential speeches about an axis of evil, nor a push against Iraq. It’s possible that Gore even accepts the offer from the taliban to hand over Bin Laden in exchange for a bombing halt in Afghanistan. If that’s the case, Gore gets to ride 2004 as the man who got Bin Laden in a matter of weeks, and without a single boot on the ground. Never Forget is much smaller, but much purer, as it’s not immediately contrasted with the absolute destruction of Afghanistan/Iraq. Also, a greater focus on Enron and other corporate malfeasance. Also, Microsoft might be broken up!

In the case of the latter, we get a continued sense of the optimism of the 90’s, though with the almost fantastical cynicism of the era as well. We don’t get truthers, nor a legitimization of conspiracy theories nor rampant Islamophobia.

2) Disgraced former (then) doctor Andrew Wakefield grows a conscience: no modern anti-vax movement. Enough said.

3) No Waco/Ruby Ridge sieges: much less credence to the 90’s far right militia movement, as well as no OK City bombing.

4) Ted Kennedy wins the 1980 primary. Even if he still loses (Reagan’s too strong, or the Dems too disunities or whatever), if he puts on a much better show than Carter (especially if Anderson drops out and endorses Kennedy), then liberal Dems have a much stronger hold on the party during this period, and the myth of Reagan is taken down a few notches, while Kennedy is seen in a better light.

5) Carter lets the Shah into the country earlier. Assuming he played his cards right, and could do plausible deniability, it could butterfly the oil and hostage crises, which would most likely save his presidency from Reagan, though cost him to Kennedy in the primary. Better historical view of Carter, dents the Reagan myth, and a more optimistic view of the 70’s.

6) Baker v. Nelson is taken up by the Supreme Court and decided in favor of Baker. Gay marriage is found to be constitutional in 1972. Huge social effects, and if/when AIDS comes along, you’ll have many gay couples where there are visitation rights, as well as insurance, and widow’s benefits.

7) No Vietnam/Korea. The US is seen as being much more peaceful, there’s not post-war disruption of good feelings nor prosperity. Truman might get a third term, or not. LBJ gets a second term and gets to fully focus on civil rights and the Great Society and the alleviation of poverty. The 60’s is remembered as the Civil Rights Era, and with no distractions, more progress can be done. As MLK said, it’s hard to arouse the conscience of a nation at war.

8) Nixon is impeached and removed from office, and is criminally charged (no pardon). Sets a president that no one is above the law, and that, in fact, just because the President does it, doesn’t mean that it is not illegal.

9) LBJ/Humphrey expose the X-File. Even if violating the Logan Act carries a slap on the wrist penalty, the massive shakeup to the election (and the consequences for those convicted would be huge). (This assumes at least Vietnam still happens, but ends thanks to the 1968 Paris Peace Talks). LBJ/Humphrey get at least a term to focus on Civil Rights, the end of Vietnam, and Nixon (and Kissinger) are removed from political life forever.

10) Papal succession is widely different. Each of these can be their own PoD for their respective Papal conclaves from OTL, but I’ll just add them in order to get a better narrative.

Mariano Rampolla is elected in the 1903 conclave, showing an outright defiance of an imperial veto. Puerto Maffi is elected in 1913, a liberal pope who supported a “Fight to the finish” policy for WW1. Hell of a PoD on its own. Succeeded by Pietro Gasparri in 1931 as a transition. Then Elia Dalla Costa is elected in 1934, a strong anti-fascist (and anti-communist) he most likely excommunicated Hitler in 1938 at Mussolini’s request (yeah, that blew my mind as well). A much more anti-Nazi Church is a huge deal, and helps with the reputation. Hitler probably greenlights the plot to kidnap him, so he’s replaced by OTL’s Pius XII who abdicates in 1954 due to illness. Replaced by Giacomo Lercaro, a liberal’s liberal and the main cheerleader of Vatican II, he’ll follow the recommendations on contraception (meaning the Catholic Church will most likely encourage the use in Africa and against AIDS rather than saying it’s evil to use them). Finally, elected the Brazilian cardinal Aloísio Lorscheider (believer in liberation theology) after Lercaro’s death, leading to a 31 year papacy (3rd longest). This impacts not only the church itself, making it more socially open and focused on the poor and on reform, but also most likely changed the views of some of our most famous Catholic politicians, such as the Kennedy’s, as well as a certain guy from Scranton.
I think you should have sorted the PODs backwards, from oldest to newest, to make it less confusing. Because you start reading "OK, it's OTL but Gore won" but as you see that there are increasingly older points of divergence what you get is the question of why the hell Gore is still relevant and reaching the presidency anyway when the oldest American POD is from 1968... and I still don't know what to say about the papal PODs.
 
I think you should have sorted the PODs backwards, from oldest to newest, to make it less confusing. Because you start reading "OK, it's OTL but Gore won" but as you see that there are increasingly older points of divergence what you get is the question of why the hell Gore is still relevant and reaching the presidency anyway when the oldest American POD is from 1968... and I still don't know what to say about the papal PODs.
I was thinking of them separately, listing them from a more recognizable to a least recognizable world.

After all, we would still mostly recognize a world with a Gore presidency, even with no 9/11, we would still have things like the Great Recession, and most general pop culture beats, just less socially conservative.

However, a TL with no Korea/Vietnam would be almost unrecognizable due to the effects the wars had on the post WW2 American psyche.

In that same vein, a USA which had legalized gay marriage in 1972 (42 years before OTL) would be vastly socially different, especially since the queer movement would move from decriminalization to social acceptance much quicker ITTL, though the backlash would also be huge.

When it comes to the papal PoDs, the idea is the cultural results of a more liberal church.
 
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6) Baker v. Nelson is taken up by the Supreme Court and decided in favor of Baker. Gay marriage is found to be constitutional in 1972. Huge social effects, and if/when AIDS comes along, you’ll have many gay couples where there are visitation rights, as well as insurance, and widow’s benefits.
Woah! That is crazy! I would love to imagine what kind of fallout would happen in 1972 America with a much earlier Same Sex Marriage legalisation ITTL, even before the Netherlands or Canada.

and Nixon (and Kissinger) are removed from political life forever.
Good. Nixon is more of a mixed bag, while Kissinger I agree deserved some kind of punishment.

10) Papal succession is widely different. Each of these can be their own PoD for their respective Papal conclaves from OTL, but I’ll just add them in order to get a better narrative.

Mariano Rampolla is elected in the 1903 conclave, showing an outright defiance of an imperial veto. Pietro Maffi is elected in 1913, a liberal pope who supported a “Fight to the finish” policy for WW1. Hell of a PoD on its own. (Especially as ITTL, the church would explicitly endorse the fighting in WW1.)

Succeeded by Pietro Gasparri in 1931 as a transition. Then Elia Dalla Costa is elected in 1934, a strong anti-fascist (and anti-communist) he most likely excommunicates Hitler in 1938 at Mussolini’s request (yeah, that blew my mind as well). A much more anti-Nazi Church is a huge deal, and helps with the reputation. Hitler probably greenlights the plot to kidnap him, so he’s replaced by OTL’s Pius XII who abdicates in 1954 due to illness.

Replaced by Giacomo Lercaro, a liberal’s liberal and the main cheerleader of Vatican II, he’ll follow the recommendations on contraception (meaning the Catholic Church will most likely encourage the use in Africa and against AIDS rather than saying it’s evil to use them). Finally, elected the Brazilian cardinal Aloísio Lorscheider (believer in liberation theology) after Lercaro’s death, leading to a 31 year papacy (3rd longest). This impacts not only the church itself, making it more socially open and focused on the poor and on reform, but also most likely changed the views of some of our most famous Catholic politicians, such as the Kennedy’s, as well as a certain Joe from Scranton.
Oh this is cool! I love some good religious PoDs. I can only imagine what an openly anti-Nazi church could do in this world, especially with apathetic people around the globe.

11) A) Small, but nice: John Glenn’s elected to the senate in 1964, meaning he’s a member of the senate when the US first lands on the moon.
Nice!

B) McCarthy loses the primary to La Follette, and Nixon loses to Helen Gahagan Douglas, meaning McCarthyism (in the form we know it in from OTL) doesn’t exist. (Also, LBJ’s affair with her continues, which is wild that LBJ had enough game to pull a movie star. Jumbo’s power mustn’t be underestimated.)
Fighting Bob’s son and a woman! Nice!
 
Since we are talking about political shifts, a POD I have in mind, especially with how many authors and content creators formerly seen as progressive or having a point or at least not writing anything really far-right oriented are in hot water right now over a very recent political issue is to have a more peaceful levant and a peaceful resolution to the Israel-Palestine war.

I think because I feel A LOT of how media are treated on the left is tied to an effort to meet BDS targets, and thus deliberately downplaying any artistic merit in any work to make it "easier" to boycott. Perhaps we could avoid this by having a more viable 2-state solution that started taking off in the 1990s or the US holding Israel to account and forcing them to adhere to a 2 state solution. There is also the idea of no Israel and thus no Nakba(which started this whole mess) in the first place but depending on the POD used(which is extremely broad here) that is a harder POD to work with as pop culture would likely be extremely unrecognizable.
 
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Since we are talking about political shifts, a POD I have in mind, especially with how many authors and content creators formerly seen as progressive or having a point or at least not writing anything really far-right oriented are in hot water right now over a very recent political issue is to have a more peaceful levant and a peaceful resolution to the Israel-Palestine war.

I think because I feel A LOT of how media are treated on the left is tied to an effort to meet BDS targets. Perhaps we could avoid this by having a more viable 2-state solution that started taking off in the 1990s. There is also the idea of no Israel and thus no Nakba(which started this whole mess) in the first place but that is a harder POD to work with as pop culture would likely be extremely unrecognizable.
Maybe an official peace treaty is signed in January 2001?
 
Since we are talking about political shifts, a POD I have in mind, especially with how many authors and content creators formerly seen as progressive or having a point or at least not writing anything really far-right oriented are in hot water right now over a very recent political issue is to have a more peaceful levant and a peaceful resolution to the Israel-Palestine war.

I think because I feel A LOT of how media are treated on the left is tied to an effort to meet BDS targets. Perhaps we could avoid this by having a more viable 2-state solution that started taking off in the 1990s. There is also the idea of no Israel and thus no Nakba(which started this whole mess) in the first place but that is a harder POD to work with as pop culture would likely be extremely unrecognizable.
This post has reminded me why I think people overestimate to absurd extremes the effects that geopolitical changes could have on pop culture, or in general changes that are minor or that do not seem at first glance like events that would produce changes as exaggerated as postulated.

In this particular case, given that Israel is NOT a huge exporter of pop culture, which would continue to be generated in other countries (which most likely will NOT be affected in any significant way by Israel's non-existence)... I am deeply skeptical. about the concept that "Israel's non-existence" will in some unspecified way cause "extremely unrecognizable pop culture compared to OTL."

It actually sounds more to me like the silly theory from the diehard sector of the Dune fandom about how the non-existence of Dune would somehow cause a chain reaction that would erase from history all artistic or cultural production made after 1970 and/or stagnate all of pop culture in its existing state in 1965, if not actively downgrading to previous decades...

...seems more like wish-fulfillment to me than anything else.
 
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